The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5
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Re: Dr.John Joseph's BLUNDER Posted By: Maggie Yonan Date: Wednesday, 3 October 2007, at 5:32 p.m. In Response To: Re: Dr.John Joseph's BLUNDER (pancho) Pincho wrote to Ashur: "...you are not a scholar, an academician, a professor, a historian anywhere and have never been." Neither are YOU! ..I don't have to be to know that the Peloponesian War was not fought in Iran and that the battle of Cunaxa was not fought in Greece...these are simple things any layman can read about. It is very valid to present your own thoughts and opinions as just those...YOUR thoughts and opinions which you may support and defend and explain as best your wits allow...in addition, however, you can bring reputed scholars into the field...I am not a scholar or historian by any means..but Dr Joseph is...no one can question that, except those who know nothing about it...I've asked you to bring your own scholar on THIS topic...which you still can't do but instead bring me Assyriologists...who have no standing to discuss, as scholars and experts, the topic of MODERN Assyrian claims. Pincho-"I distinctly said that you people fail to bring even one historian who is versed in THIS topic...that is; the modern Assyrians." We are all well-versed in this topic, because WE ARE the modern Assyrians and have studied our history extensively, unlike you. ..then give the sources where you studied...and I don't mean Rosie or Aprim or any of the "books" that flatter you...I mean books by what the world considers historians and scholars in the field...name one...just one. Without that you're about as grounded as the Arayan Brotherhood who also KNOW the real history of the White Race. The Nazis also had historians and scholars. The people you call historians and scholars couldn't pass the test anywhere. Pincho-"You keep citing experts of ancient Assyrian history...and to make up for this, present yourselves as "experts"...when your only basis for any of this pop-history is what your grandmother told you." Dr Joseph took ALL of his sources from other Assyrian books published by previous Assyrian scholars, hence he is no Historian EITHER! ..he did not. Refer to his bibliography and you'll see..he refered to those so-caled Assyrian books only to show the errors committed there...he does give valdity to the books written which record church history...but only as CHURCH history...never as a source for history or fact...I may cite Voodoo texts..that doesn't mean I vaildate them. but a bullcrapper second-edition writer, who has not been able to prove his theory, nor did he find any original documents other than what he found through other Assyrians writers. Unless of course, we start calling him Dr. Joseph, the Nestorian, the way we will start calling Fred Luther Parhad, the Nestorian. ...your weakness shows. Name-calling, like what you did against Dr Eden Naby, another professor you don't like, is the only "defense" you can make for your prejudices. Dr Joseph used many documents...and what you are calling "original" would include "Mein Kampf" as an "origianal source...for Nazi prejudices. Pincho-"...there was no "nationalism", the way we use the phrase since the rise of nations, in that region, with the dissolution of the Ottoman EMPIRE...an empire is not a nation...it is usually made of the lands of conquered people who belong to an empire...not a nation." If we use this definition, then there are no AMERICANS, other than the indigenous American Indians. Everyone else is just an immigrant! But that is not the case when in modern sense, someone goes to define what an American is TODAY, and in relation to that definition, ONLY Amercian Indians will be able to obtain American national passports, so you better give-up yours quick!! ...this is true...but the power of the Euros allows them to dictate the way it is...as you could if you had any power...as the Kurds can now that they have the power....those who don't have any power should find other means to make their case..like reasoned debate. Dr Joseph produces the evidence to show that the term Chaldean and Assyrian are modern designations...brought to that region by the Europeans...the evidence is all over the place..which is the reason none of you can stand the book...it pokes a hole in your cherished self-aggrandizment...stripped of your "lineal descent" from Ashurbanipal...what are you on your own? Pincho-"...as far as ignorance goes..one who feels disdain for the correct usage and meaning of words in a language so clearly not his own and on which he craps with every other word...well." Look who's talking! ...I'll match wits and language skills with you any day...only one of us is hiding. Ashur wrote: The NATIONALISM fever spread all over the world since these two great revolutions emerged where they brought a new meaning for people that were not acquainted with before. "...that is true. But this still doesn't address the definition of "nation" in use today." You keep changing the definition of a nation, as you go along, which proves your inconsistencies, and your own dysfunctional definitions. ...I keep the ame definition the dictionaries use...I've posted it time and again and it blows holes through your self-imagined definition...I'll be happy to do it again. ...more in the next post --------------------- |
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