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Muslims are too Tolerant and Forgiving....

Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Saturday, January 17 2015, 0:26:27 (UTC)
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....and Patient and Gentle.

They tolerate hate crimes, they tolerate discrimination, and they tolerate attacks against their fellow Muslims without uttering a peep. Except of course for the very few who feel these slights extremely hard and do something extreme about it.

Most recently Duke University reversed itself and said that Muslim students may not issue the call to prayer using loudspeakers on campus...but church bells may toll. The school didn't single out “fundamentalist students” or Tunisian or Indonesian or Egyptian Muslims, but all Muslims. This prejudice is not aimed at individuals or even individual acts but against the entire religion as a whole. All Muslims are just Muslims...it hardly matters what they come from or what they do or don't do. They are first and only Muslims. This allows for people to identify any one Muslim criminal or insane person with all of Islam, with all Muslims. They are interchangeable and personal distinctions hardly matter.

Christians did the same with Jews...there were no German Jews or French Jews or Polish Jews...they were all just JEWS.

It is true that only those Muslims who feel their oppression terribly are the first ones to fight back and are labeled “extreme” or terrorists....but all Muslims are implicated, by Christians.

Let's see how this plays out if we lump all Christians together as only Christians with no individual or national distinctions...hence there are no longer Germans or French or English or American....they are lumped together(if they are Christian) as only Christians.

Let's see what the violent record of this religion is in the last hundred years. The first thing to note is that the abundance of crimes, invasions and attacks were not committed by Christian extremists, or Christian terrorists or even fundamentalists No, they were committed or approved by moderate Christians, “nice” Christians.

We know the list.....Spanish-American war, First World War, Second World War (they could hardly wait to rear one generation before they went at it again), the Korean War, the Vietnamese War, the war on Cambodia, the war on Iraq and Afghanistan and of course, Grenada. That doesn't count the madrassahs for torture run by the US Military and the torture chambers around the world...or all the incursions into other countries and not to forget all the military bases around the world.

This is what the Christians have been doing, that and the Holocaust...let us not forget that bit of Christian engineering. Does anything Muslims have done come even close?

One of Harris' and Hitchens' favorite comments about Muslim radicals is that they aren't radical..they aren't the dispossessed, or the poorly educated, or the poor....many of them are professionals and college graduates coming from middle-class backgrounds...so, “how can you say it is oppression that motivates them”? By which is meant only Islam, only their religion, motivates them.

But, neither is it poor or uneducated Christians who've committed the organized, political, crimes of the last century...Christians too had as leaders and followers highly educated persons, persons of wealth and standing and even liberal leanings...so, what motivated THEM? Was it their religion too, or something else......something political or economic?

If we just drop the national names and refer to all of them as Christians, we'll see at a glance the horrific record for violence, theft and bloodshed of this Christian faith and its true and moderate followers, forget the extremists.

It wasn't Germans who attacked Belgium or Poland, it was just Christians....Germany didn't start two world wars, in which over 100 million mostly other Christians were killed and maimed and whole cities ruined, Christians did it...Americans didn't attack Korea and Vietnam and Grenada, Christians did....it wasn't Southerners who were lynching innocent people, it was Christians....it isn't Germany and America and Britain who have been manufacturing and selling weapons of mass destruction for decades, but Christians who have done all these things. And it isn't Muslims who build battleships and submarines and missiles and atomic bombs (and use them) and attack helicopters and nerve gas and biological weapons and cluster bombs and rifles and grenades and land mines and jets and transports and so much more...it is Christians who do these things and then sell around the world expecting what? Peace?

Put in that light, the same light we try to shine on Muslims, Christianity appears to be a mad-dog religion which, importantly, knows well how to market itself as other than what it is: the bloodiest religion the world has ever seen. Just look at its record for the last century and remember, extremists didn't do all of this, the majority was done by nice Christians.

Good god...what would a Christian EXTREMIST do?

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