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=> On Sargis Aghajan

Posted by Maggie (Guest) - Thursday, December 7 2006, 21:13:22 (CET)
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"This time, says Mr Aghajan, Christians are not going to be pushed out. Referring to the armed guards his churches have recruited - he does not like the word "militias" - he declares: "We've decided to stay and we will resist."

***What part of these statements do you NOT like Fred? That they decided to stay and resist? This proves that they are NOT the COWARDS Kanna said they were, when he said there was NOTHING he could for them!

>"His brave words come late in the day. Iraq's Christian community numbered 1.4 million in 1980 at the start of Iraq's war on Iran. By April 2003, when the US-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein, it was down to 800,000, according to Mr Aghajan. Since then the lawlessness, car-bombings and sectarian conflict have cut it to 500,000, of whom 250,000 live in Baghdad."

***Is there ANYTHING "untrue" in this statement of Aghajan's, Fred? Do you NOT like the "truth"?

>"Christians often ran businesses selling alcohol. In Basra and other Shia cities of the south, as well as Shia suburbs of Baghdad where Islamist parties are strong, they have been forced to close. Many Christians worked on US bases as cleaners and laundry workers, often hired because the Americans felt non-Muslims were less of a security risk. This caused them to be targeted by insurgents as "collaborators"."

***Is there ANYTHING in this statement that is NOT the absolute truth?

>"Like the Mosul Christians, many of those from Baghdad have fled to Kurdistan."

***What about this one? Is this NOT the truth?

"At St Joseph's church in Irbil, which is packed for the weekly service on Friday evenings, few families are willing to talk. They shrink when a visitor introduces himself as a journalist. A car salesman from Mosul now runs a small clothing shop near the church. He agreed to speak but without giving his name. "We left our house in a hurry, and couldn't bring any of our furniture. A bomb had gone off right outside," he said. It was shortly before the Pope made his notorious comments. He is glad he got out in time."

And finally, what is wrong with this statement? Is there ANYTHING in that paragraph that is NOT the Truth?

***Why then all this hullaballo about how "evil" Sargis Aghajan is? Or how DARE he speak on behalf of Assyrians! The reality IS that your Rabi and his NAZI TROOPS are FINISHED IN NORTHERN IRAQ! Aghajan IS THE ASSYRIAN LEADER in northern Iraq, and this is NOT because of Kurds, or Assyrians, or Iraq, or UK, or America. This is because HE WAS BORN THERE, and he LIVES THERE, and he more than ANY ONE, KNOWS WHAT THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE NEED, and more than ANY other Assyrian, HE WAITED FOR YOUR RABI AND HIS GANG TO COME AND RESCUE THEM, TO NO AVAIL, and in spite of the HELL that is now Iraq, SARGIS AGHAJAN HAS FOUND A WAY TO HELP OUR PEOPLE, and if ZOWAA OR ANY other gabba had achieved ANYTHING for our people for the last 30 years, Sargis Aghajan would NOT be where he is today. So I thank your Rabi Kanna for doing NOTHING, because if it wasn't for him and his thugs, Sargis Aghajan would NOT have found a way to help our people. Alaha Ashur inspired him and Alaha Ashur will help him achieve all that is necessary for him to do for our people! So SHUT-UP ALL OF YOU, SORE LOSERS.

Now let us see what Fred has to say:

Written by Fred Aprim on 06 Dec 2006 17:17:17:

As an answer to: 'We're staying and we will resist' written by Jonathan Steele on 06 Dec 2006 05:16:23:

Fred wrote:
"Aghajan in NOT the "main leader" for Assyrians."

***You want to bet? HE IS! whether ANYONE likes it or NOT! That's who the people trust, and listen to, and he IS THE PEOPLE'S LEADER!

"He cannot make such foolish claim."

***You are NOT telling us what "foolish claim" you are referring to? So this sentence is irrelevant!

"He is a Kurdish appointed official;"

***Your Rabi was a Kurdish-appointed official for 26 years, and he did NOTHING for our people, with his title, his money, and his influence, NOTHING!

"he was NOT elected."

***He was more elected than your Rabi Kanna was in that region! Our people said NO to Kanna in northern Iraq!

" He is a member of the Kurdish KDP under Barazani."

***So was your Rabi Kanna, and he did NOTHING still!

"We have elected leaders in three elections."

***You CANNOT elect "leaders" in ILLIGITIMATE elections! And your Rabi Kanna is an illigitimate official in the Iraqi parliament, a token seat given to "Christians".

"Aghajan is slowly showing his true face as we predicted;"

***You didn't predict ANYTHING, but Aghajan surprised you by showing his true leadership qualities and actual abilities to accomplish something for our people! and he did it quietly, professionally, without hysteria, without manufacturing martyrs!

"he is being groomed by the Kurds to be the Assyrians' leader"

***Well, if they groomed your Rabi Kanna for 26 years and still he betrayed Assyria, the Kurds, Saddam, Zowaa, or ANY ONE that ever counted on him, why are you now crying? He is good for NOTHING and NO ONE, but himself and his son-in-law Ninos Pithyo, who are now multi-millionaires, thanks to the Assyrians of Diaspora.

"as northern Iraq will live the general referendum in 2007 to decide the future of northern Iraq and he will work from such capacity to join Nineveh Plains to Kurdish region."

***He will do no such thing, if the Assyrians of northern Iraq don't want it. UNLIKE your Tyrant of a Rabi, Sargis Aghajan is asking the people what THEY want, and is trying to build a concensus. It is STRICTLY up to the Assyrian people of northern Iraq to decide what THEY want without YOU or Zowaa, or Kanna telling them anything. Besides, the matter is out of your Rabi Kanna's hands now, THANK ASHUR!

"Aghajan, you cannot fool the people."

***Aghajan has NEVER tried to "fool" the people, nor has he ever tried to solicit accolades from anyone, but your Rabi sure did for 30 LONG years!

"You are not our elected leader. You are a Barazani and KDP man."

***I trust Barazani and KDP to do right by our people through Sargis Aghajan, ANY DAY than I would EVER trust Kanna and Zowaa to do something for our people. Their track record speaks for itself!

"Fred"

***All the fanfare and all the drum-beating did not help Zowaa to do right by our people, and NOTHING you can say and do now Fred, will EVER turn the clock back! Aghajan and our people are moving forward without ANY of you!
Maggie!!!!

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