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Re: A Jewish historian on the Palestinians
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Wednesday, December 10 2008, 23:33:44 (CET)
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Well said bother. Whenever I have this debate with other Christians, as always, they try to justify what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinans and what the west is doing to Iraqis and other nations. It's almost like they are admitting that it is ok to kill innocent people if they are the ones doing it. They argue with me that the Palestinian Muslims of today are all Arabs. They want to believe that all these Muslims in the Middle East are Arabs and came with the rise of Islam but that is totally false. The Arab population would not have been that high to suddenly have over a 180,000 Arabs. The Palestinian Muslims are, like everyone else, people who accepted Islam and adopted the Arabic language. To say that the European Jews are truly Israeli is just as absurd as claiming that only Christians are descendants of the ancient Assyrians or the Copts are the only descendants of ancient Egypt. This is not onle false but it is unreal. I know so many Shiites from Southern Iraq who are very proud of their Babylonian heritage.

The majority of Arabic speaking Muslims in Iraq, or in fact anywhere in the Arab world, have little to do with being ethincally Arab but they adopted the language. As the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said, "anyone who speaks Arabic is an Arab". So being identified as "Arab" has nothing to do with blood or ethnicity but more with language and culture. Our nationalists like us to believe that no Arabs ever existed in Mesopotamia prior to the rise of Islam which is also false. The Arabs traveled throughout the deserts for thousands of years and some were in Mesopotamia as well. Most of the Shiite and Sunnis of Iraq are descendants of the ancient Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Arameans and everything else who accepted Islam and adopted thev Arabic language. What these nationalists like us to believe is totally false and they are not being realistic when they try to define the descendants of ancients by a particular religion such as only Jews are the descendants of the Israelites and only Christians are descendants of ancient Mesopotamia or Egypt. This can't be true at all.

Some of them try to face it but then say "yeah but the Arabs forcefully converted them and raped them". That is also not true because the Arabs went from Spain to China and did not rape women or forcefully convert anyone but history tells us that Christian soldiers raped women, tortured people, and forcefully converted people by any means. If they were forcefully converted, then the Arabs would have done so to all and not just a few while allowing Fred Aprim's ancastors to remain and bring him into this world.



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