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Re: Assyrian, Syrian, Asori
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, February 5 2008, 0:49:02 (CET)
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Shlama19 wrote:
>Pancho, you seriously have issues with life, get some counseling because people who draw pictures like that are seriously sick in the head.

..yeah yeah...yeah. We've heard all before a hundred times...you people only know how to excommunicate people...burn them at the stake if you could too...the one thing you CAN'T do is handle challenges and opposing points of view...especially when you don't know how to deal with it...so the person challenging you becomes the "traitor" or the "enemy" or the "sick" or the "Turkish agent"...and you wonder why you people are splitting and spliting into smaller and smaller snarling, barking, yapping, ooooompahpahtahs.
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>We believe that our church started with Mar Toma, you don't like it? the wall is next to you, you know what to do.

...I have no problems with what you THINK...think whatever you want. Believe in the Easter Bunny if you want...what do I care? I'm writing for and having conversations with adults...people who don't believe in fairy tales.
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>That's like me saying who's Mohammad? what Mohammad? the Quran is nothing but a fake made up book and Mohammad was no prophet no nothing, Islam is clearly non sense, is that proper of me to say? even though there are many errors in the book itself where Muslims can be proved wrong in but that's another story, my point is you are mocking, that's all you seem to be good for, you don't want to discuss or talk because in your head you have some kind of sick agenda.

...it isn't the same at all. Islam ACCEPTS Jesus...in fact Mary is mentioned by name more often in the Quran than the bible. If Islam has a silliness to it, like virgins in paradise, it's in Paradise that it takes place, not on earth...on the other hand, it is Christianity that has brought more bloodshed and violence to world than Islam or any other religion...it is Christian nations, not Muslim ones, who started two wordl wars and dropped atom bombs on sleeping women and children...if Muslims had done such a thing you'd be saying EVERY DAY that this prooves what a violent religion they have...but when Christian do it...you say they are not "real" Christians....that's your problem....all we know is that Christianity has been the bloodiest scourge the world has ever seen...and that's a FACT, fella...not an opinion.

..You claim that people voluntarily chose Jesus...that may have been true for the Jews...but it wasn't true of any other "nation". The Romans made Christianity succeed and they did it through violence and forced conversions..the historical record is all there for anyone to study...it isn't an "opinion".

..You say Nestorian monks went to China and India and Japan taking the "message" of Jesus to people...and those people rejected it. You were eventually thrown out of Japan...and in China and India, after 2000 years of telling people about Jesus...you have nothing...a few thousand here and there...no more than the numbers one would expect if those early monks screwed only each other and married only the few weird converts they made....but with all the opportunity and time in the world to convert people to Christ...you managed nest to nothing in all those centuries...so it seems that people do NOT leap into Jesus....they have to be either trained to it from birth...and you can make people into cannibals the same way...or they were forced into it at the point of a sword...and that's JUST what happened...all over Europe, Africa and the New World...the trial of blood that runs like a river through Christian history is incredible....and you have the nerve to compare yourself to Islam?

...Islam doesn't ptomote wars, the way your religion does....it wasn't Islam that murdered six million Jews for their religion..it was Christianity....Islam didn't harm European Jews, Christians did..and yet their lands were stolen to make a final solution of YOUR Jewish problem...and they bore it patiently for decades...far more than any Christians would have...and today, when they can't take it any more and when they see you Christians moved your butcher shop to Iraq, they've finally had enough and rise up, with hardly any weapons of their own, to fight for their dignity and freedom...so they won't be the next to suffer anothert Holocaust at the hands of Christians.

...and I'm the SICK one fot telling you about the hbistory of YOUR church? Who needs counselling?
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>Just for the record, our church texts (Which you don't know how to read since they're in Syriac) mention these things about Mar Toma, Mar Bawai the Great, and the rest of them, but of course you choose to be ignorant for some odd reason, clearly you have some kind of hatred in your heart, God knows what's wrong with you psychologically.

...I told you, churhces, their texts and their personel lie...evrybody knows it. Church "history" is mrerly the history of what THEY have said...that is NOT history...people who believe the sun stood still and fished were made out of wine are not to be trusted...try getting into a graduate class in history by telling your professor what YOUR Syriac tests say about the subject...go on, try it! The Voodoo religion also has "texts" and they too have "truths"...and you study and write about them and read their texts is you want to know the history of THEIR prejudices and miracles and fantasies and miracle cures dome with rooster blood...as you claim can be acieved with the blood of Jesus (YUCK!)...what is WRONG with you people??? This is not HISTORY...the KKK also their history...but it is NOT history as the civilized, educated, thoughtful world uses that word...of course I reject your texts...not because I "hate" you or your texts...but because they aren't believeable or creditable...just because YOU believe them places no responsibility on me to accept them..and if I don't then you are justified in burining me at the stake....or telling me I need "help"...maybe YOU need the help.



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