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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Monday, April 9 2007, 23:56:48 (CEST)
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Jumblat wrote:
>Pancho wrote:
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>" but you`re welcome to write anything you like here and say whatever you want about anyone...for we are not Christians here...we are Assyrians."
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>Could you shaw me one sentience that I said something pro or anti Christians? I am in the first place not a Muslim and neither a Christian, I am a Druzi person.

...who can`t spell either...you meant to say you are a "Ditzy" person...no?
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>But, reading the history that I admire the Assyrians very much , furthermore I do have Assyrian friends which I admire and love.

..you have Nestorian friends...none of them have any proof that they are Assyrians...none at all. Go back before 1850 and no one in BetNahrain was calling himself Assyrian...at the most it was Nestorian and Chaldean...

You consider yourself Assyrian, but try to attack that great nation

...I have all the respect for the actual, ancient Assyrian nation...what you are referring to are Christian wannabes who`ve taken on the mantle of the ancient Assyrians...if they fool you, fine.

and depend on people who are promoting everything against your Assyrian nation,

..there is no Assyrian nation and hasn`t been for ages...but judging by the rest of what you write you never met a dictionary you liked.

a case in point you just YOU were against those sick professors,

...I was never "against" anyone...I never had any "enemies". I never knew much about what Dr Joseph actually wrote...till I bothered to find out for myself..as for Ross, I admired his courage and willingness to get up in front of people...something you sorely lack. I believed he was wrong to tell me about the Assyrians..especially the part where he praised them for turning Christian....I would still argue with him...though I would agree now that there are no modern Assyrians...something he would not accept, but claim they are all Christians and better off for for it.

..apparently you are one who thinks to ever learn something new not taught to you when you were three years old means you are a "traitor" to your childhood. Living is learning...education takes place your entire life...but you have to be open to it. Your views and the views of others like you matter not in the least...no one listens, no one cares, no one is convinced...the people who matter...to whom oficials come when seeking real history are people like Dr Joseph...naturally you resent that.

NOW suddenly you are shifting gears to their side, here is one thing I will say that either:

...I don`t take sides...I evaluate and study and think...and if I find I was mistaken, I admit it, because it`s far worse to go on believing something just because I want to appear to have always been "right". The modern Assyrians are terribly ignorant of their own history...at least the most nationalistic among them are...it would do them a world of good to use soap once in a while and to read something besides the bible and Syriac manuscripts or each others "books". And they do...that`s why we have more people reading here than the rest of them put together...of all of you I stand most to lose by realizing my error...because I`m the damfool who put two monuments up in public when I thought I was a direct descedant etc. However...I am still Assyrian...as I always was, only now I know why I never accepted Christian Nestorian or Catholic claims to being Assyrian..because their claims were based on lies and tricks....first imposed by others and then adopted by themselves...clearly they are not Assyrian but Nestorian instead....they merely hoped to be taken seriously as a "nation" by adopting a "national" name...no one outside of their clubs is fooled though.

I am the same Assyrian I always was...I just have the evidence I was lacking for my gut reaction that Aprim and the rest of them are not Assyrians...as I never believed they were.
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>_ You are a sick person, or>
>_ You are not Assyrian , but an Arab where your name is FRED.

...I wouldn`t be ashamed at all to be an Arab...but the truth is I am who I say I am...an Assyrian of Iraq...not a direct descendant by any means..such a thing is impossible and absurd...but something of an Assyrian consciousness passed down through the ages and surfaced in me...I never wanted it...I rejected it all my life...but there was finally no denying it...and I never talked about it...I did something about it...that`s another way in which you can tell the difference between Nestorians and Assyrians.
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>Finally, next time , you better check your words before you speak and don't dare to attack the great Assyrian nation.

...go scare your Aunt Tilly.

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