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Re: How We Came To Believe II
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Thursday, February 22 2007, 19:13:47 (CET)
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"No wonder we are such unreasoning brutes when we discuss anything near to this topic…because the other side has all the reason, calm, logic and evidence in their camp…as their opponents we have decided to chose opposing “methods” rather than opposing facts, because we have no valid evidence nor logical points to make, and so we shout where our opponents talk, we use personal insults and accusations where they use none..."

[b]---I wonder if you would have used that terminology to describe the actions of the Africans when they were enslaved by the white man.
…I would..if at applied at all…but as one Black man speaking to another I can even call you nigger and have you use that back with no harm done…I’m speaking about us Assyrians as the “brutes”…because we very often are when discussing this delicate subject…what do White men and Africans have to do with it?

…From where I stand and after 29 years of dealing with these people…being threatened with bodily harm, in front of my children, having my mother called a whore and my father worse..having my children dragged into it by Aprim…having the police called to arrest me at a convention and very many more things, my sculptures seized and then impounded while other sculptures were welded for me in a way another Assyrian thought they “should” be…I think I can safely describe the people who do these kinds of things, who call themselves REAL Assyrians and nationalists too…BRUTES.

I guess if someone is spitting in our face, whipping us, and kicking us...while keeping a cool, calm composure, we should stay calm as well.

…tell me who has done this to “you”? Who? Did Iraq spit on Dr Donny George..or did the United States? You know, you ALL talk like you suffered a great deal..but I don’t see it. If you mean those nationalist hotheads who thought it was part of their religious or national duty to preach and advocate sedition in Iraq, then I’m sorry, but they asked for it…as they would have received the same in any other country…but you tell me what you have suffered? And tell me then who has NOT suffered such things? Go on…I’m all ears and eyes.

…as to remaining calm, yes…because pissing all over the rug won’t help things…hating your ‘enemies” won’t either…you people certainly scream and carry on so that anyone would thing Genghis Khan had sired you..but it’s all show…all “dimma shakheena”…with no substance behind it..once you discharge your tear ducts and strain your vocal chords you are all…ALL, as docile as mice. I remain calm to understand better…to learn what’s opposing me and to get the first lick in before my opponent knows what happened…I don’t see where anyone’s hot head or blood has translated into anything meaningful or lasting.

Or when Iraq was illegally attacked by America and America fabricated evidence and documents and went on TV to tell the country that they were going to destroy Iraq...er excuse me, LIBERATE Iraq, AND kept a cool, calm look on their faces while using "evidence" and "logical findings" then the people of Iraq who were getting bombed should have just sat there calmly and waited for the bombs to drop. Does that sound right????

..this has nothing to do with anything I said…the fact that you don’t comprehend things does not constitute an emergency for me…we are not damaged by other people anywhere near to how we damage ourselves…we attack each other and also reduce ourselves to clowns way before we get close to a real battlefield. My comment still stands…we lower ourselves to the level of brutes whenever anyone punctures our fables, without even pausing to listen or consider..it’s a reflex with us…with no thought…very like a brute.


Just whose side are you on?
..I should think that would be obvious…I’m on the sane and civilized side..the side that explores before plunging..the side that isn’t afraid to consider anything…lkie the fact that we were never calling ourselves Assyrians before the Europeans did so…of course people mentioned the Assyrians…all the time..because they read about them in the bible…and since we lived ON the land that used to be Assyria, sloppy people could claim that THEY were the original Assyrians’ descendants…it’s an understandable “trick”…but a trick all the same…if you refuse to doubt, doubt everything, then you’re merely willing to swallow the food others chew for you…and I’m not.

If things went your way, we would all be bending over backwards right now and kissing up to the "knowledgeable" Americans.
..that’s a brutish statement coming from someone who’s paying Americans to “teach” him what he could read for himself.

Being a country with an Ivy League chain of schools doesn't mean jack.
..especially if you can’t get into them…you’re beginning to sound like the wounded peasant boy who’s pride is miffed…those Ivy league schools you knock have also produced the people who built the country your parents ran to…don’t forget that.

It is a fact that each and every country - past or present - has created, used, and abused their educational system to pervert the minds of people and brainwash the populace to accept their preferred ways of thinking.

…then what are you doing getting a degree in brainwashing..and paying for the privilege…how smart are you?



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