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Re: If you wish, here is why
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Sunday, April 6 2008, 18:56:01 (CEST)
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MiniMe wrote:
>There is hardly anyone in the world who is as stupid as you are... Why? Because of the never ending fallacies you spew and claim to be the "truth"...

...here again, you merely say I'm the stupidest person...without showing how or why. This is where all your comments break down...for instance; I think you're wrong when you say Christianity is no different from any other religion...but I don't call you names because I disagree. Instead I set about SHOWING that you're wrong....by mentioning at least three beliefs or rituals from your OWN religion whivh are patently unlike any other modern-day religion.

...sure, I could settle for saying, "Boy, are YOU the stupidest person in the world for saying all religions are the same". But what does that show except that I have no evidence to back me up and so, like a petulant child, I call you names? You remain incapabale of addressing the ISSUE I raised and either satisfy yourself by calling me a monkey or a virgin, or simply refusing to back up YOUR contention that all religions are the same. It's better, for you, to SHOW I'm wrong or stupid rather than just say it, followed by monkeys and virgins, as if that clinches your case.
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>Read and pay attention, IDIOT. here are a few, with definitions, based on science... Of Course...
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>1- begging the question (petitio principii): A.k.a. "circular argument," uses some form of its own conclusion as one of its key premises.

...see what I mean? This is your atandard MO....you define words, or make sweeping generalizations such as..."think a little harder and you'll see"...or, "If you weren't so biased you'd see it clearly"...etc....and you think that weakens the points I've made. But it doesn't. You are completely incapable of sticking to the points raised and arguing them...you either call me names, say I'm a monkey or, as here, act all lordly and condescend to define terms for me....as if that mneans you understand and practise them...when you don't. These are all tricks...they're a smoke-screen,.,,a lot of fireworks meant to confuse and hide the facts of the case....but, of course, they don't. The fact remains that you NEVER are able to simply discuss the issues raised...
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>2-biased sample: Uses a skewed sample of individuals to draw conclusions about an entire group.

...this is like telling me milk is supposed to be refrigerated...we all know it.
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>2-complex question: Asks a question with an unjustified presupposition.
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>3-confusion of cause and effect: Assumes that one thing causes another, when in fact what is assumed to be the cause may be the effect, and vice-versa.
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>4-false (questionable) cause: Assigns a particular cause to an event, despite reason to consider other possible causes.
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>false dilemma: Sets unrealistic limits on possible options.
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>5-genetic fallacy: Infers that information must be false if the reputation of its source is questionable.
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>6-guilt by association: Implies that an idea is bad if it is associated with harmful ideas or practices.
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>7-hasty generalization: Makes an unjustified general inference from an insufficient sample.
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>8-spotlight: Infers that highly conspicuous individuals are typical of a group.
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>9-undistributed middle: Makes an unjustified inference about some members of a group from information about some other members of the group.
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>10-unqualified generalization (dicto simpliciter): Makes an assumption about all individuals in a group, overlooking pertinent differences.
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>11-composition: Ascribes the nature of one or more parts to the whole.
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>12- Monkeyism: Believing that when one does not disclose answers, has none...

...this is just a long list...has nothing to do with the issues raised in my post. I already stated, lots of times, that rather than discuss head-on and directly, you sing and dance and hem and haw and finally call names...and you just obliged me, again, by doing exactly that...the delightful part is that you feel completely satisfied, as if you'd thought up of all these rules you just posted...that's the sad, yet funny, part.
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>So stupid monkey, as you see from the above fallacy syndrom unique to you...

...see? You write down a long list and then end by saying it's "unique" to me. You once again SAY it, without showing HOW, when or where I've done these things...that's precisely what I mean. For instance, your religion: you still have not been able to SHOW that the unique characterisrics I say Christianity possess, don't exist...or that I am wrong. You merely SAY that I am...just as here you haven't shown that I commit all the things you list...but just SAY it.

...I believe that's begging the question....because you assume to be true that which needs to be SHOWN to be true...or.

...To make my point clearer I'll ask you again to address the ISSUES raised in only one example...I say that your religion is NOT like all other religions in at least threee, but many more, key elements.

1. teaching cannibalism to children.

2. teaching vampirism to children.

3. these two acts are universally condemned throughout modern history and are crimes.

4. your religion taches children to accept gifts or benefits that can ONLY come to them through murder(the murder of Jesus).

I say that this is extremely unhealthy and warps adults...and I often ask myself if this explains the also well-proven case that Christianity is the bloodiest and most violent religion the world has ever known.

Now then, if you can handle and deal with these issues one by one and with counter-arguments..then I was mistaken in claiming you merely send up smoke screens and dodge issues for name-calling etc. I hope you can deal with them directly and honestly.

If you once again tell me I'm stupid...or read me a cook book or recite Robert's Rules of Order...then I'll know I was right and that you'll do anything BUT deal with issues as a mature adult.

The choice, as is always the case here, is yours.

Based on SCIENTIFIC FACTS. You actually are an idiot. So as I suggested to you from the beggining, go and see a psychiatrist... Afterward, go home and screw yourself.



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