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Re: Is True....
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Sunday, April 5 2009, 7:36:06 (CEST)
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The Jewish followers of Jesus had sworn at one point not to eat and drink until they had killed the liar(Paul). Christians like to sweep this whole controversy under the table by telling us that it was a minor dispute over the law but that was far from the truth. Paul was preaching a totally different religion in the western part of the empire while the Jewish followers of Jesus could not travel since they were not citizens and were anti-occupation. These people fought the Romans and the Jews who were pro-occupation until death. The silly Josephus at one point belonged to this group before he sided with the Romnans yet he couldn't help but tell us a little interesting things about them and their ideas. He states that they had left Jerusalem and established their own community outside the city in the mountains. They were extremely careful about outsiders because they feared them to be Roman spies. They lived their live in devotion and purification. They prepared themselves for battle and were known for causing trouble. These people lived in a time period where their mothers, daughters, sisters, sons, brothers and fathers were being humiliated and crucified.

Their women are being gang raped and generations of them are crucified for not paying taxes and for being against the occupation. Since Christians love their crucificts so much they should at least know what horror was involved in that. Christians like us to believe the 'crucifixion" of Jesus was a one time event in the land with the whole population watching with front row tickets as if it is a baseball game. It was horrific and people did not like to watch. The bodies were left hanging for long periods and for all to see so they could learn a lesson. And no it wasn't just men but also children, women, and elders who met their deaths on the cross. Under such conditions, Christians like us to believe the silly stuff in the Bible about a poor western looking handsome Jesus walking casually in the land while people are surrounding him in crowds and barefoot. He is walking, talking and sitting like a Bhudda statue and people just sitting for hours listening to him about "peace" "love ur enemies" "pay your taxes" "turn the cheek" and all that other silly stuff.

If he really said such things, he wouldn't have lasted 2 hours because his own followers would have chopped his head off. He wouldn't have to worry about crucifixion because his own would have stoned him as they did with others whom they viewed as traitors. Can you imagine a Prophet or any humasn for that matter seeing his own people being humilated, tortured and crucified yet he tells them "pay your taxes" "love those who persecute you" "faith is only in the heart" and "it's okay they are doing this to you"? He would have been dead on the spot. These people who were waiting for the messiah were fed up and waiting for help. On the other hand, if he was really saying those things and this was his message and mission, why the heck would the Romans want to kill a messiah who is supporting them? They would have loved him and made him rich. It would have saved them a headache and stop them from having to9 crucify so much.

But that is not the reality here at all but there is another side. If he was really preaching those things, his own would have killed him but they couldn't crucify him since that was what the rulers(Romans) had the power to do. The Romans did not take orders nor comply with these very people they were humiliating and torturing. The Romans and the Jewish high priests wouldn't want to kill him because he would have been helping them out. The only logical reason that the romans and Jewish traitors would want him dead is because he was an open danger to them. He would not have to pick up swords to be a danger to them but he could have done so by just his mouth. He was therefore, an open danger and threat to the rulers and they would have reasons to want him dead.

This makes even more sense because the Jewish followers of Jesus were anti-Roman, they fought and whatever they were like would give us a decent idea of what he was like. For sure we can throw this silly idea of Christendom out of the scene because it goes against historical reality. It wouldn't mean anything to use words like "messiah" in those days at all if it was a time of peace and happiness. It was a brutal time period and they were awaiting a messiah to help them. Now when we take a look at how the quran describes the story it begins making even more sense because it states clearly that Jesus told his people "children of Israel, worship God my lord and your lord, that is the straight path" and further he tells them "fear God and obey me". These are fighting words if people think for a moment. The Romans have made themselkves the law givers in the land and the Jews can't have no other law giver besides God. It is a historical fact that Jews were divided between those who were upholding their religion and those who were not. Therefore, Jesus was adressing the party that was not upholding the religion but rather compromising and siding with Rome for the benefits that came with it.

It be logic that they want to kill him and he was a threat to them, but the silly ideas of christendom just go against reality and are more like a children's story. To write a book about the time period of jesus and not mention the horrors tajking place is like writing about the history of New York city and not mentioning 9/11. It is absurd and Christianity is huge lie against Jesus(as) who didn't even have this name.



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