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Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Tuesday, November 6 2007, 2:04:01 (CET)
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You know these idiots must feel real manly and important calling shots from 7000 miles away in all whire suburbs. It's more funny when these idiots try to teach history of Mesopotamia to others. From my experience with Iraqis and from what I know from my parents, the Iraqi people take great pride in their Mesopotamian heritage. No one is denying that the ancient Mesopotamians existed or that they are the ancastors of modern Iraqis, but they are rather using logics and common sense. We have a group of Christians in Iraq, and we have a few wannabe chiefs living in California talking about that every one of these Christians is Assyrian. It is not Assyria that they are denying but they are ignoring fools would make such claims. Every normal person knows that ancient civilizations existed all over the world, and they are the ancastors of modern nations, but no one would dare say that a certain ppl are fully descendants of the ancients. That is like the modern Greeks of today claiming that every member of the Greek orthodox faith is 100% related to Plato, how absurd would that sound in the eyes of others?

Yet that is how these ppl sound. They live thousands of miles away, they are jealous of Kurdish achievements, and they want all of Iraq without having to put up a fight but rather be handed over for no other reason than being "Assyrian". The first issue that remains is the fact that there is no way a race can be identified by a particular religion. We already established that part, but they continue insiting that the modern Christians of Iraq are all descendants of the ancient Assyrians. In modern times, the Assyrian name is only used to identify the Christians of Iraq. I have even tested it just to see for myself. Go and ask any Iraqi about Assyrians, and their answer will be "Massihiyun min Iraq". In other words, Iraqi Christians. Evidence shows that the Christians were not claiming this name less than a 100 years ago. It wasn't until after ww1 that they became known as Assyrians.

Why were there no real works or records of Assyrians demanding an Assyria? It shows that they were simply Aramaic speaking Nestorians and nothing more. Suddenly only after ww1 did they become known as Assyrians and want to demand a land. Yet for almost 2000 years no effort, no works, nothing was being done in the name of Assyria, and suddenluy it is a national thing. In reality, it is nothing more than a religious thing and the national name is only a cover up and being used "conveniently". It sounds better to say "Assyrians of Iraq demand their nation" rather than saying the "Christians of Iraq". Whether Christian or Assyrian, it ain't gonna do any good because any Iraqi can claim Mesopotamian ancastry. The Shiites of Karbakla, Najaf, Hila, etc still call themselves Babylonian, and they didn't need the west to remind them of that, and they sure as hell didn't need Christianity to remind them that they are Babylonian. The other issue is that the Christians of Iraq claim to be descendants of Assyrians of antiquity, yet the same ppl claim all the ancient Mesopotamians did not survive. So one has to answer how Assyrians managed to survive, and nobody else did, yet many of the others existed long after the fall of Assyria. That is something that the Dadeesho's and all the other wannabe chiefs can never convince any civilized human or a scholar, nor a historian.

As for the newest book by Aprim, it is just another garbage as his other book. My friend try to get me to read it a few weeks ago, and he didn't believe me that it was trash until he read it and wasted his time. It's just another one of those books which not even be read by 10 ppl and is published from his backyard.

Such ppl I call cowards who hide in California and claim to be freedom fighters lol. They must feel like real men doing it from such distancees and they actually think that the Kurds just got everything given to them by crying. They are ignoring all the uprisings and wars for territory and they are pissed cuz they couldn't even gather enough troops to fill 2 Greyhound buses to fight for a Christiania, oops my bad, I mean Assyria.



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