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Re: Okay, you wanna start fresh and "discuss" things?
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, May 28 2008, 6:33:02 (CEST)
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MiniMe wrote:
>Why not drop all the religion bullshit stuff that no one can win over and talk about what is important for everyone...

...you talk about whatever is important to you, I'll do the same. No one expects you to run along behind me and sniff at everything. I had some questions I posed outloud about the violence in Christianity...if you have no interest in the topic and nothing to add or no contrary point of view...why do you bring monkeys and virgins into it? Why call me stupid for asking a question out loud? Why must we take YOUR word for what Jesus meant when we have his OWN words? Are you a Catholic that you take it upon yourself to explain God to the rest of us?

..if you don;t like my questions, fine. Leave them alone. If you can show me that I'm wrong, be my guest. My original point was that Christianity is very different from modern religions because it teaches cannibalism etc. You've offered nothing authoritative, except your opinion as to what Jesus REALLY meant, to the contrary...well, I'm not writing what I THINK he meant...I quoted his own words from the Bible...you are not a God, so I won;t take your word for what a God meant to say. You ASKED me to get something official, not a dictionary...and I did...and our Assyrian friend brought the letter from the Cardinal, a much greater expert on the bible than you'll ever be, explaing that it is REAL flesh etc. Now, YOU don't like what Catholics and Eastern Orthodox churches teach, fine...that's your right...but I was talking about the millions and millions of Christians who BELIEVE this and teach it and practise it...I wasn't concerned with you and the ten people in your sect...

Discuss the stuff inside a person's head[/] and it's essence... Why do you [u]think about the things you think about?... After all, isn't the cause of all the problems in the world inside people's head?

...I asked WHY the Christian religion lies about Islam, as it did about Judaism and why Christians have started so many wars, have killed each other by the millions and why our two world wars were started by Christian nations...I asked the question based on my observations and the facts of Christian violence, as can be found in any real history book...you don't LIKE these topics...so what? This forum doesn't exist so that you won;t be offended. I find all of your posts offensive, but I can show WHY they are...and not just SAY they are.

I can SHOW where you are stupid and ignorant and lying...you can't. All you can do is SAY these things about me, and then congratulate yourself for being so "perceptive" etc....as if your saying them makes them true.

I'll say it again; Christianity is VERY different from any other religion on earth...can you PROVE to me that it isn't? Use YOUR imagination and DEEP THINKING to show I'm wrong...don't JUST use cuss words, use FACTS!
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>If there is ONE devout Christian that is a a good and decent human being, then Christianity can't be blamed for the mess in the world.

...that's absurd. What is your basis for such a statement? Explain it more than just to TELL it to me. It makes no sense at all. I'm not stupid...I can understand things..but I'm afraid you are one of those who has been TOLD what to believe and merely repeat it and expect others to accept it the SAME way...that doesn't work...it certainly doesn't work with me...I am not of your faith...if you wish to convince me you have to do alot more than preach to me, or dispense with these kinds of pronouncements as if they come from a God incarnate...your statement is merely your opinion and I'm under no obligation to accept it uncritically...the trouble is you people look upon ANY questioning of your statements as heresy or blashphemy and you justify yourselves when you try to scalp people or burn them at the stake for merely asking you to EXPLAIN...or give EVIDENCE.


By the same token, if there is ONE devout Muslim who is a good and decent human being, then Islam can't be blamed for the mess in the world. Because if Christianity or Islam were the problem, ALL Christians or ALL Muslims would have been "bad"... Follow the logic?

...this is not logic at all. It is religious belief. If ten thousand pills are dispensed to ten thousand children and 9,999 of them die...but ONE of them is cured, that pill would be outlawed and the person who dispensed it would be put in prison for life if not executed. You could hardly use this kind of "logic" anywhere outside of a church.
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>Do you really think about the things "you" think about?

...don;t be silly on my time.
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>See how nice I can be? Because I KNOW what I do and why I do it... Where as "free thinkers" don't... They are driven by what's under the surface, and don't know it... They only "react" to things...

...who gives a shit how nice you are or nasty you are? It's the quality of your mind and thoughts that damns you. Can't you get it through your pointy head that I have absolutely no interest in you, as an individual, one way or the other? When you are handy to use as a good example of what I mean...when I have a USE for you, I respond to you, I use you as one would a rag. But don't flatter yourself...I would never look your way if we met.

...Be the biggest shithead you can be...what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING?
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>Let's see how much in control you are of yourselves...


...I don;t live to show you anything, to prove anything to you, or to kiss your ass and beg your time and consideration as you keep doing with me. If you have an intellect and have ever wished for a place where you can express it freely and openly, then this place is for you. If you wish to argue the issues raised here, even if you feel the need to cuss and swear, go ahead and make a fool of me and my ideas, but do it legitimately if you can and not the silly way you've been behaving. This place is intended to allow the most through and serious challenges to ALL our cherished beliefs..it is NOT the place for you to preach and the rest of us to accept your words as if they had any intrinsic validity...this place is for you to make YOUR case...and, should you just wish to fart around and play the class clown, you can do that too. But what you will never do is bring me down to your level, a level where I would ever consider a "conversation" with you...not unless you first pour your heart and mind out, fearlessly, as many of us have done here over the years.

You get out of Life what you put it...so far you've given us lightweight shit and when we can spare the time or can benefit from it, we give you bacl exactly the same thing. If you want more thna that, then give us more than that. It's your move.



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