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Re: SHAME SHAME on YOU !
Posted by Ashur Beth-Shlimon (Guest) - Sunday, March 1 2009, 9:05:21 (CET)
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HIS EXCELLENCY FRED PARHAD WROTE :

" Dear Dr. Ross,

I rather hope you forgot the debate I forced on you, which you, and your college president, graciously accepted. I wish I could forget it. But, since I caused you some trouble at the time I have to take the trouble now to write and tell you that I was wrong. I was raised with, sort of. I never really believed that there could be direct descendants of the ancient Assyrians but had no evidence one way or the other.

Much to my chagrin, the evidence was placed before me a few years after our debate. It turns out that the gentleman from whom I received such information was a relative who tells me now that he tried, gently, to enlighten me several years ago but that I would not listen. It took my own wonder and dismay over the way modern Assyrians behave, once I mixed more intimately with them, to raise even more doubts that our claims have any merit.

The book which cleared things up for me was written by Dr. John Joseph, the relative I mentioned. He received his doctorate from Princeton University in Middle East History with an emphasis on missionary work among the Christians of Persia, Turkey and Iraq. He is retired now from Franklin and Marshall College as Professor Emeritus and recently had a new International Studies Building, on campus, named after him...the funds being supplied by an ex-student who said that Dr. Joseph was the first to teach him how to think. While we have several Assyrian and Chaldean professionals who claim to have studied history, none of them did so in an academic setting and none of them, to my knowledge, earned any advanced degrees in the subject. We have Assyrian dentists, anthropologists, doctors, lawyers, engineers and even, finally, one Astrologist, who all claim to have studied the matter and are satisfied that history shows that we Christians are indeed the lineal descendants of the ancient Assyrians. A few have even gone so far as to write down such stuff , producing what they call “books” through the print-for-hire shops. These collections of national myths they then “reference” in each other’s books and pass on to the public at large as history; the lot of them drifting giddily to hell.

Dr. Joseph’s book, “The Modern Assyrians of the Middle East, Encounters with Western Christian Missions, Archaeologists, and Colonial Powers”, Brill Publishers, is something you should familiarize yourself with, particularly the first chapter. It will give you the material you need when next confronted with our nationalists. And, in the event someone else wishes to take you to task, I’d suggested requiring that he first read Dr Joseph’s book, or the first chapter at least.

Not surprisingly our own people call Dr Joseph a traitor, one whose diploma was bought for him by the C.I.A on whose payroll he has been since before graduation. His mission was to “make sure we Assyrians never rise again”. Though how one professor in a sleepy town such as Lancaster, Pennsylvania, could expect to accomplish this, no one can say. Dr. Joseph has received death threats and been subject to personal insult and calumny. And, I’m pleased to report, so have I since reading this book and writing about it on our forum.

I still take exception to your assessment of the ancient Assyrians as barbarians and bloodthirsty savages...
I recognize now the damage that these nationalist claims have inflicted on what is merely a Christian sect, or two, maybe three...Nestorians and Jacobites. The modern Chaldeans were invented by missionaries sent by the pope in the 16th century...and the Assyrians were invented by archaeologists and missionaries of the 19th. Till those times our people never referred to themselves as Chaldeans or Assyrians...but I’ll leave Dr. Joseph to explain it much better than I can.

. It isn’t easy to make this change....I too have lost friends and antagonized family and, as a professional sculptor who for years has made Assyrian sculpture, this hasn’t been good for business either. But, if the truth really sets you free, then it has to be told before it can do any good.

Sincerely,

FRED PARHAD
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If you just discovered that you are WRONG, for us is not new , but very old. Now you are apologizing to a person who is trying to tarnish our history , and build up doubt about our Assyrianism that we were living in the same place where our ancestors lived , while this JEWISH person who GOD knows as another Jewish colleague told me , " I know I am a JEWISH in religion, BUT I do have doubt that I am an Israeli ." these people who were that EVIL that they don't have a match in the whole world where were beaten by every single nation of the Middle East and even the Europeans and driven out of the Middle East for centuries.
Your motives through your UGLY LETTER represents your TRUE UGLY character that you are doing this as a revenge because of building wealth by making ASSYRIAN SCULPTRESS that were not accepted , because of your hate and grudges toward every Assyrian who doesn't submit to your ARROGANT character , then the Assyrians are not Assyrians , but they are barbarians , this is what your moron Professor Dr.ROSS told you and that adds another insult to our Assyrian nation .
Your relative or this JEWISH Professor are not the only in our current world who decide what kind of people Assyrians are , no question you find variety of people with variety of opinions , but here I am quoting a British historian who wrote the best books about our people ( The Mighty that was ASSYRIA, by H.W.F. SAGGS , page 264 ) :[b/]

The Assyrians left such a forceful impression upon history that, more than two and half millennial after their final disappearance , they can still evoc emotional judgments, mainly directed against their imperialism and their ( often over-stated) atrocities !.

...... ISAIAH , who lived at the peak of the Assyrian power , made a judgment upon them ; BUT the condemnation he proclaimed was NEITHER for brutality nor for IMPERIALISM.

[b] FURTHERMORE another historian , this time an American by name A.T. Olmstead in his book - ASSYRIA - page 646 wrote:

The Assyrian was cruel, So he was . But it is something more than a RHETORICAL question when we inquire whether he was more cruel than others have .... there is not an Assyrian atrocity which has not its parallel or its equivalent in perfect justice ... as a warrior and an imperialist , the Assyrian WAS NO BETTER and NO WORSE than his present-day descendants .

Finally, the ZIONIST propaganda is clear and known by us, but something I would like to say that because of their EVILNESS , these people can't and will not survive , but through shedding their blood for ever and what happened to ASSYRIA will be worse than that for them , they are EVIL and surrounded by EVIL people like them the Arab Muslims , and a state like that ( Israel ) is rejected by me any way , but let them have it , and your Dr. Ross or your relative are only smart to expose and attack our scattered people , while doing nothing to expose those who slaughtered our people through ages that you DENY that , but you are silence that your DR.ROSS confirmed that in his letter to you !
You threw yourself in a DITCH that it is impossible to get out of it , unfortunately day by day you making it more deeper with such ARROGANT behavior that you are going to loose everyone , BUT yourself - good luck to you and the case is close.



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