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=> Re: Sam Harris

Re: Sam Harris
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Sunday, January 2 2011, 23:45:06 (UTC)
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Rashad wrote:
>I agree with the fact that he rejects religion and recognizes how silly it is. Sam is of Jewish origin. Although he would qualify as an Atheist since he rejects religion but doesn't call himself one, I can agree with much of his views but I can also see that he is bigoted and has his prejudices toward Muslims. Here is a quote from him on Muslims:
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>"For instance, [liberals] ignore the fact that Muslims intentionally murder noncombatants, while we and the Israelis (as a rule) seek to avoid doing so. Muslims routinely use human shields, and this accounts for much of the collateral damage we and the Israelis cause; the political discourse throughout much of the Muslim world, especially with respect to Jews, is explicitly and unabashedly genocidal. Given these distinctions, there is no question that the Israelis now hold the moral high ground in their conflict."

Fuck him! How absurd...those 700,000 Iraqi babies UNDERthe age of five were combatants? They werenŽt even non-combatants...they were BABIES! Bullshit on genocidal...Christians have been GENOCIDAL, as early as 70 years ago...when have Muslims done anything like that? This is WAR...it is REBELLION...and even here Christians are the ones killing the people of an ENTIRE country, Iraq...for what none of them did.
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>The above is totally off because the U.S targets civilians intentionally. Just because the media covers up most of what the military is doing to civilians in Iraq, doesn't mean bad things don't happen. I don't know of any Muslims who intentionally target innocent people but I also don't believe in them silly "suicide" bomber myths. It wasn't until recent decades that "Muslims" adopted suicide tactics. There is much evidence that the U.S trained and funded Afghans and others in Muslim world to engage in such acts and i don't even believe most of the stories our media report are real.
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>Muslims never attacked houses of worship in history yet now they are doing suicide bombings in their own mosques? A people who will not destroy a church, temple etc because god is still mentioned there would blow up their own mosques? A people who won't even touch the Quran without clean hands would storm into a mosque and blow it up and killing themselves in the process? It don't add and I am not this stupid to believe such nonsense. There is no need for a suicide bomber when the target is a crowded area with civilians or mosques. One could walk into a mosque with a gun and start killing everyone in there so why do suicide bombings? Oh, I forgot that they are Muslim and are doing so because of religion. If Muslims are so bad and love death so much while hating life, why is suicide unheard of in the Muslim world. As much as Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, Somalis, etc have gone through, why do they continue to live and try to make better lives for themselves?
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>A westerner commits suicide when his girlfriend breaks up with him and the Muslim can survive and go through all sorts of horrible times, yet still say "Allahu Kareem". If anyone should be tired of life, it would have to be Muslims yet suicide is just about non-existent among them but in the west it is very common. The U.S, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark have high suicide rates while in third world Muslim countries and war torn countries people still have faith things will improve. Perhaps this could be explained to me by all these "geniuses" on TV.
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>Back to the above quote from Harris, is he referring to Israel as innocent/ I assume so since he is of Jewish origin. The only way Israelis or Jews are innocent is if Palestinians are also innocent otherwise it's bull shit. Palestinians didn't ask for this and they don't have weapons nor the financial capability to obtain the weapons which Israel has. Israelis bomb Palestinian territories and then complain about a Palestinian who is perhaps fed up and can only target the nearest Jew to him. Let's keep in mind that Jews and Muslims lived peacefully together prior to the creation of this conflict. Most people seem unaware but there were approximately a half million Jews living in Palestine alone with some 1,2 million Muslims. They were living in peace and saw themselves as brothers which they rightfully should have. Now there is a huge difference between a Middle Eastern Jew and a western Jew just as there are differences between the southern Jews we have in Atlanta and the ones from Brooklyn or Chicago.
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>The western Jews who migrated from Europe to Israel are White and ethnic Europeans just like a German Christian is except they differ in religion. Unfortunately, they share the same prejudices and mindset of Europeans. They already look down and mistreat darker skinned Jews so it is only logic they will even be more intolerant toward Palestinians and Muslims. I can't condemn Palestinians for fighting back against Israel which is like a David vs Goliath match but I will blame Christian for this mess because Israel wasn't created by Jews but by powerful politicians and western countries.
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>Pancho, you gave me a good idea and I will email Sam and see if he will respond. I will post anything on here after I get a response.

...Great, do that. Get me his address and IŽll email him too. Greatjob refuting the guy.



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