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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Thursday, May 22 2008, 3:56:39 (CEST)
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Mosulini wrote:
>If you really wanted an answer, you would have asked a priest or posed this question to any of the many Christian forums. But it seems you are just interested in challenging your forum visitors and making fun of them.

...we allow everyone to believe as they wish...I believe that Jesus endorsed cannibalism...I was asked to provide proof from the Bible, preferably from the mouth of Jesus himself...I did that. Priests and others in such positions of authority refuse to discuss this other than to say it is "symbollic"...but it isn't...and if you poress them about it they do the same thing Minime is doing, change the subject or say you "harte" Christianity. Clearly it is NOT symbollic...or wasn't seen that way by Jesus and his church which preached for centuries that it is ACTUAL flesh and blood.

...I wish a priest would come on here..I wish I could get the pope in a closed room where he couldn't run and put this point to him...but these people all run from this conversation. Not my fault.
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>Jesus spoke in allegories and his words should not be interpreted literally as you do. For example:

...sorry. That's not the way the Church sees it. Jesus spoke in parables, not allegories...besides which it makes it no less awful to use these kinds of synbols...what ELSE could cannibalism represent but cannibalism? Jesus said himself that it was REAL flesh he was talking about...and for centuries the Church executed people who said Jesus didn't really mean it....this is all an attempt to distance themselves from what Jesus obviously meant.
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>John 3 - 4
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>"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

...there's nothing wrong with that statement...he merely said "born again"..had he said "unless man kill again", that would be inciting people to commit crimes and would be criminal in itself...Jesus says unless you EAT his flesh, you can't be bron in him or be "in him and of him"...that's where the problem is, because eating human flesh is a CRIME whereas being "born again" is not, Big difference.
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>Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"

....sure, that's a verbatim interpretation...but STILL, Jesus is not advocating a CRIME in saying unless man be "born again"...but when he says unless a man EAT his flesh, he is indeed advocating criminal behavior as well as pretty disgusting stuff. That's the difference between these two statements...one act, "born again", is NOT criminal...eating human flesh is.
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>You're like Nicodemus!

...not at all. Had Nicodemus waited around for a response to his challenge, Jesus would have told he didn;t mean REAL re-birth, crawling back into the womb...that he meant it in a symbollic way...being re-born spiritually etc...but Jesus has his FULL say about eating human flesh, as the quote from John shows,,,he makes it clear that he means ACTUAL and real flesh and blood...read it again and you'll see the difference.

...besides which, the choice of symbols is significant...if I teach children that crimes are symbols of love, it matters a great deal...and cannibalism is a crime, no two ways about it. Besides which the church executed people for centuries when THEY said Jesus didn't mean REAL human flesh...it's all over the history books.

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The Bloody Gospel pancho - Thursday, May 22 2008, 0:21:57 (CEST)
- Re: The Bloody Gospel Mosulini - 05/22 01:26
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  - Re: The Bloody Gospel MiniMe - 05/22 23:48
    - Re: The Bloody Gospel pancho - 05/23 01:14
    - Re: The Bloody Gospel Mosulini - 05/23 01:26
      - Re: The Bloody Gospel pancho - 05/23 01:38
        Re: The Bloody Gospel Mosulini - 05/23 02:34
        Re: The Bloody Gospel pancho - 05/23 05:02
        Re: The Bloody Gospel AssyrianMuslim - 05/23 07:23
        Obvious? MiniMe - 05/23 07:36
        Re: Obvious? pancho - 05/23 07:41
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        Re: Obvious? pancho - 05/23 08:24
      - Mosulini MiniMe - 05/23 07:33
        Re: Mosulini pancho - 05/23 07:37
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- The Quote...one more time pancho - 05/23 07:34
  - The Question... AGAIN... MiniMe - 05/23 07:48
    - Re: The Question... AGAIN... pancho - 05/23 08:21
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