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Re: These are not against ISLAM , but PRO your ISLAM!
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Sunday, April 13 2008, 22:15:12 (CEST)
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Jumblat wrote:
>Dear AssyrianMuslim:
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>It seems, when you are cornered you speak of frustration and you lose sorry to say any logic.
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>You said in a reply to me that , you could quote many people who attack Christianity , and claiming I am bringing stuff that is against Islam, WHICH IS ABSURD STATEMENT TO MAKE PERIOD.

You think I am stupid and don't know what my religion teaches. I don't care about Saddam or those Arabs you are talking about who are no different from you and your issues, but they still more open minded than you. What I care about is the Islamic sources and not what secular Arabs say or do. When I say Muslims and followers of Islam, I don't mean Hasni Mubarak, Musharaf or your Saddam but I mean Muslims who adhere to Quran and Sunnah who follow Islamic Ideaology and not nationalism or tribalism. The people you are mentioning for your support are not my people but yours.


>Let me clear here, when I said that Arabs see themselves the best people , I was not attacking ISLAM, but attacking the Arab sick mentality and I did the same against the Jewish who think of themselves the same way.

Yes you were attacking Islam because you poorly tried to quote a verse falsely and then not even translate it. I had to go back and post the entire verse to show what game you were playing. As for any such Arabs as you talk about, there are Black sheeps in all communities so I don't care because I am Muslim and not an Arab nationalist, socialist or anything else. If you are so concerned about racism then you should reconsider yourself first because yours is obvious and no different from those. I know the difference between a devout Muslim and those who take nationalism over Islam which clearly forbids nationalism which is no different from racism with another name for it. While your Christians practiced racism even in church and congregations, Islam never has such. For example your Catholic church didn't allow black bishops, your Christian rulers in South Africa treated and still treat Native Black South Africans as 5th class citizens just below the Indians, Malays, and other Brown skinned people. In America, the same pastors who are nor spiritual advisers for Bush and John Mccain were the ones who were pro segregation and racism. So Racism has always existed and for some reason it has even existed among practicing Christians. While such sickness exists everywhere, Muslims who take their deen serious do not suffer from that disease because of the fact that we are highly recommended by our religion to pray all 5 of our prayers at the mosque standing shoulder to shoulder with our brothers so that there is no gap for the devil to sneak in between.


>Then, hereunder again I am posting what will prove my point about the Arab chauvinist sick mentality , by things said by YOUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD and NOT BY MUSLIM OPPONENTS as you poorly and without any truth try to distort my theory and here read for yourself what YOUR PROPHET URGED HIS PEOPLE to do- they are not ENEMY of ARAB or ISLAM, but it is your messenger of Muslim faith, NOW I HOPE IT IS CLEAR AND I REST MY CASE .
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>There are a lot of Prophet HADETHS which encourage people to love the Arabs because they are preferred and SUPERIOR :
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>>" If you humiliate the ' A R A B ' you humiliate ISLAM "
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>>" Any one who loves the ARABS, with my love I love them, and who hate the ARABS with my hate I will hate them "
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>> " You must love the ARABS , because I am an Arab, the Qur'an is in Arabic, and the LANGUAGE of paradise is ARABIC "
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>> " You must love the Arabs , because their continuation is LIGHT of Islam and if they are vanished Islam itself is vanished "
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>> " No body hates the Arabs, but a hypocrite "
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>> " The love of the Arabs is a faith, and if they are hated it is a
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>> " The Prophet Mohammad said: O' Salman don't hate me because you will lose your religion, I said messenger of GOD , how I will hate you where you were the reason I knew GOD then said: if you hate the ARABS , then you hate me !"
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>SOURCE of the above:
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>An introduction to the Arabic Language by Mohammad Bader Al-Adeen AbuSalih
>From the Oriental Publishing House , Aleppo , Syria 196 ( the material is from pages 23-24

That is a bunch of bullshit and I know where you got that from. Listen carefully because "Hadeeths" are something that we Muslims understand very well and you don't know nothing about them. The hadeeths is a science which was invented by Imam Al Bukhari specifically for hadeeth purpose. This science is used today by scientists to determine truth. Scotland Yard is based on the science of the hadeeths. The authentic hadeeths are more valid, authorized and authentic than any of your books in the Bible. This is acknowledged by secular non prejudice scholars. So, if you are going to talk about hadeeths, you better know what you are talking about. I know that what you posted is full of shit and nothing but your dirty Christian Arab propaganda. I even know which web site you got that from. The hadeeths start with a chain of nararation, then they are numbered. They have a number and as I said it is a science that you will not understand because you are prejudice.

I am going to show you later on, inshaAllah when I have time. I am going to show you real hadeeths and I don't have to give you links to propaganda web sites and all will be settled then. One thing I will tell you before I go is that the man, Muhammad(pbuh) whom you so hate, before there was such thing as a dentist, while your people still believed the world was flat, he brushed his teeth before every prayer and after every meal, he told his followers to brush their tongues as well. This is long before there was a dentist. But I will be back soon inshaAllah and will post some hadeeths on here and show the game that you are playing.



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