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Re: They Didn't Whip at Auschwitz....
Posted by assyrian muslim (Guest) - Friday, September 18 2009, 20:53:14 (CEST)
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rico suave wrote:
>How come when presented with evidence of brutality all you can do is point to other people?

...I do so only when you are trying to make a special case that Islam is beyond the pale...all people commit crimes...but Christians commit the BIG crimes..the crimes that involve attacking innocent people and countries...yes, inside those countries crimes exist and deplorable conditions, but that should not be used as justification for starving their children to death, even if those children will grow up to commit those same crimes.
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>Do you have nothing to say about the issue at hand?

...if the issue is "brutal justice" and if I think Islam is being singled out as the only, or primary religion to use brute force as punishment, especially if it is being pointed out by a Christian, then I feel compelled to also point out the brutality of Christians...just to level the playing field...because to not keep things fair is to demonize one side, as was done to Jews during the 1930s...and we know where that leads.
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>Pointing to other brutality in no way erases the one you're supposed to be responding to.

..of course...and ignoring the brutality of your own side in no way makes the other side something unusual.
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>So, what do you think of the woman being lashed? Do you support it? (And please, try to avoid the predictable: "But the Christians did so and so...!!!!".

..of course not...it is a terrible thing...but I have to point out that Islam is 700 years younger than Christianity...if you go back 700 years in Christian history you will land in a place where Christian brutality would disgust you even more. Christianity had longer to make itself presentable...it had its Reformation and Renaissance...Islam is in desperate need of the same...and will get there...but it has to have the chance..it deserves the same chance Christianity had and is entitled to take the same amount of time...you deserve no credit for the improvements in Christianity...you were born with them therefore you shouldn't brag or put down the less fortunate...or those who came later to the game. 700 years ago Christians were the brutes while the Islamic Empire led the world in everything you can name.

As you and I deplore the whipping of anybody, I deplore, but you don't, the unfair stigmatizing of Islam...as was once done to Judaism. Let's all calm down and play fair.
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>We're talking about Islam here. I'm guessing you have no argument, or else you would actually address the issue. Idiot.

...why call me an idiot? because I disagree with you? Is that fair-dealing? And why on earth would I defend whippings when I'm trying to be fair to Islam? The people running these things now are extremists and not typical of Islam...they are the "bad" Muslims...just as there are so many bad Christians...many Christian extremists would LOVE to be able to whip women...as it is they condemn them to back alley abortions wherein thousands have died and will again, if Christians have their way.

To make it clear then, I am against whipping...I am also against race-hatred and bigotry...trying to arouse hatred against a people or religion...which I believe is what you are up to....I don't call you an idiot for believing as you do...just a Christian.



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