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Re: You both miss your own point.
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Tuesday, November 20 2007, 17:22:02 (CET)
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Muncho wrote:
>That is not the same as Assyrians switching from Akkadian to Aramaic because the two were different languages.
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>***The WRITING changed, NOT THE LANGUAGE.
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Another lie, the writing and language changed both. Akkadian and Aramaic is not the same language. They are Semitic just as Hewbrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and others, but they are still different languages. I know that is what Fred Aprim and those liars teach, but that is not true. They are different languages just as Spanish and Italian are both Latin, yet different languages.
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"Not different dialects but they are different languages."
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>***You just love to come up with stuff, dnt you?

It's a fact, I didn't come up with it.

>"So, that is the point, when you switch languages from one to another,"
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>*** Like the Turks switched language from on to another?

Different dialects is not different language, and the Turks still have their culture preserved. Have you ever met or seen any Uzbeks, Uyghurs, Turkmen, etc?


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>"As is obviously clear, today's Assyria is based on religion and the two are one and the same to most Assyrians."

>*** Only you and pancho insist on tat... And a few other ignorants...

No, it's not just us and a "few other ignrorants" who think that but it is a majority that think that.
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>"you should inform other Christians that Assyrian does not mean that one is Church of the East or Christian period."
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>*** No need to tell anyone. As I said, only you, pancho and a few other idiots insist on that so you have something to argue about and make yourself feel "smart"

You call us idiots and try to ignore the fact that the "few" are actually the majority? you need to argue that with them, but of course you are no different than the rest of those who make such claims.
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"And please, don't try to turn the table in making it seem as if brother Pancho has made this up over night, I have seen this with my own eyes and if you haven't seen it, then either you don't know any Assyrians or you are just ignoring it, but it is very common among most of them to think that only they are truly Assyrian and in most cases their claims are based on being not only Christian, but of a certain denomination."
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>*** One can ony see what one is LOOKING FOR... too hard for you to understand?
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If you are trying to say we are narrow minded, you are dead wrong because that is the case with the majority of Christians who call themselves Assyrians and think it only applies to them because of religion.

>"Now one does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the above person is abviously a Christian more than anything. But, why aren't there any people named Ashur, Sargon or any other Assyrian names?"
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>*** Your name is MUSLIM, how come you're Assyrian?

How you know what my name is? secondly, Islam is not my nationality, or ethnicity. I never claimed only Muslims are truly Assyrian, but that is your friend's mentality.
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>"why are they all Christians and all their work is based on church rather than "Assyrianism"."
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>*** Because that is ALL they had for more than 2000 years, just like the Jews political ideology was based on RELIGION... Is this too hard too?

Sorry, no comparison because the Israelites were a nation and their religion was one, but that is not the case with modern Jews. Today they are totally different because they do not live according to their correct way. Our case is totally different from them. There are Jews who are Muslim, Atheists and others, but they are still labeled as Jews. So the case with Jews is completely different. Nonetheless, they never lost their culture and tradition for over 2000 years and suddenly became "Jews" again.

>"I mean now suddenly after the British naned the Nestorians as "Assyrians" suddeenly there are Assyrian nationalists,"
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>*** I told you before; it wasn't the British, it was the SHOVEL.

Funny how your "Shovel" only found it around the same time the British came huh?>
>*but we couldn't find one a 100 years ago or so, why is that?"
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>*** Because you and pancho were DEAD 100 years ago, how could you hav known?

Simple, just read books and works of people back then. That is how we know.>
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"You claimed that the British did not revive this name, well then you need to go argue that with the Catholic encyclopedia, the Anglican church and the majority of scholars why hold this believe."
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>*** You and pancho are too stupid to know why they are brainwashing you with that stuff.

They not brainwashing us with it, they brainwashed you into believing that an entire nation is of Assyrian blood and only that Christian "Nestorian" nation. It is not us who believe that, but it is your church going friends.

>" In case you haven't noticed, it is not a popular opinion that today's Assyrians are descendants of the ancient Assyrians."
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>*** And you have no idea why...

Of course I do, it is you people who have this little myth going that the whole world is affraid of "Assyrian Unity".
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"It wasn't until the foreign archaeolgists, scholars, and historians began researching and making discoveries that suddenly the modern "Assyrians" began knowing "Assyrianism"."
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>*** Not the forein archeoloy etc... it was the LOCAL SHOVEL.
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As I said, your "local shovel" was a little too late huh?

>"I gurantee unless Assyrians would have gone to school in the future and studied archeology that they would have even know a fraction of what we know now."
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>*** Give me the name of the school YOU went to and I shall recomment it.

Jhare, are you pissed because you know it is true, and that the majority of your people think being "Christian" makes them "Assyrian?

>"So, it's not Pancho who imagines this and it is not from Pancho that I learned this from, but it is from experience."
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>*** And Of Course, you are the ONLY one who has valid "experience, right?
Nope, you dead wrong; that is "church of the east mentality" not me. If I was to operate that way, I wouldn't last as a Muslim for one minute. I could never have discovered Islam with a narrow mind.

>"So, I don't what kind of Christian Assyrians you live with who are so open minded, logic and tolerant of other Iraqis claiming to be descendants of the ancient Assyrians."
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>*** Missed you point here

Of course you did.



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