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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Monday, April 21 2008, 0:27:21 (CEST)
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Jumblat wrote:
>Pancho DON'T defend ISLAM

...never did. I'm also not attacking Christianity...to present the actual teachings of ther Church is not to "attack" it. Christian rituals and belief are exactly what I said they are...I got it from YOUR religion...just like the facts about Christianity being the religion that actually murdered people just for their religion...such as the Jews among several other groups...I didn'e make it up...the whole world knows it....same with forcible conversions...I didn't make that up either...it's attested to by numerous Christians historians...I'm not defending Islam when I point out that it is Christians who've committed these crimes, not Islam. That's merely a historical fact.

...the person who attacks is you...because all your comments and beliefs about Islam come from prejudiced sources, not recognized historians....I've asked you several times to give us the EVIDENCE for your claims...as I have. And you can't.

...you think when someone tells a truth and it happens to expose you, that the person must be lying...or "attacking". The only thing you recognize as truth is what appeals to YOU. It isn't ruth, or acuracy, or history or even fair play that interests you...it's just spreading propaganda and lies, lies you LIKE, that interests you. And. true to form, you accuse ME of doing what you do...when my comments and observations are based on evidence, which I've placed here several times.

, you are UNABLE to defend yourself

...that too is just your opinion...and you know you're wrong as you write it. I've had a very easy time "defending" my ideas because you can't post any evidence for your opinions while I have been doing just that.

to defend ISLAM which you ran away from and live in the WEST !

...Islam and Muslims are all around us...I didn't run from anywhere. I was brought here to America by my parents at the age of eleven. But this is all besides the point...something else you never learned is that you cannot attack the person as a way of attacking his ideas...you can attack the person as a way of attacking the PERSON...sure, that's legitimate. But if you want to attack the person's ideas you have to attack those IDEAS...you can't substitute an attack on a person as a way of discrediting his ideas...can't you even grasp that?

..and the best way to attack my ideas is to whow that they're wrong...I don't mean by calling me stupid...or repeating your prejudiced views over and over...anyone can do that and no boks or degrees or knowledge are needed to do so...who can't call ANYBODY stupid? But the best wya to show the IDEAS are stupid is to address the issues they raise and show THEM to be stupid...and you still haven't done that...like Minime you just hop aroiund from foot to foot.

.one more time: show us the evidence that:

1. Muslims killed people JUST for their religion.

2. Islam preaches and practices forced conversions.

I say it was Christians who did these things...that isn't my "attack" against Christianity..it's merely a statement of fact. Give us YOUR facts...not your opinions or those from another web page that agrees with your prejudice...give us real HISTORIANS.
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>If you are right, JUST MAKE a simple 180 DEGREES AND GO BACK where the SWORD of ISLAM is ready for you

..that isn't the issue...and you know I'm not moving anywhere you suggest. That isn't the issue...no one ever raised the point that Saudi Arabia is a better place to live than Mexico...it's besides the point. YOU said Islam kills people JUST for their religion and has forcibly converted Christians...asking you for your proof was THE ISSUE.

...I've already answered several times that I live in Mexico and will not move anywhere you tell me to...that issue is settled...but, what is NOT settled is where you got your evidence from...from what historical sources did you get the information that Islam kills people JUST for their religion and practices forcible conversions...settle THAT issue instead of making travel plans for people.

as it was for these two Syrians in Saudi Arabia where they were beheaded by the peaceful Islamic law and that beautiful AROMA of the traditional sword of ISLAM ,Kindly, just read the following link >

...do you have any idea how many people are murdered every day in American cities...or how many children are raped...and how many of them are raped my religious people...whar does any of this have to do with anything?
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>http://www.marmarita.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9303

...why do you present nothing that is asked for? We want to know where you got your information that

1. Islam kils people JUST for their religion and
2. Islam forces people to convert on pain of death.

...from where? It would certainly underscore you other points if you could produce actual historical facts for these allegations...especially as I've been asking you for over a year...what better way to make your point about Islam and how terrible it is than to show us your SOURCES and your PROOF?

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