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Re: because they are NOT assyrians....

Posted by Ghwergis (Guest) - Wednesday, February 22 2012, 9:22:20 (UTC)
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pancho wrote:
>Ghwergis wrote:
>>When I saw this site, I assumed it was some sort of pro-assyrian forum, but I see users like "pancho", trash talking the Assyrian people.
>
>..is truth "trash" to you?
---No, you seem very passionate/upset; this forum is difficult to follow, and I have no idea where you stand or are coming from at the core.

>I don;t like lying cowards, especially ones who prize ignorance above all else...the trash is coming from those Christians who try to pass themselves off as descendants of the ancient Assyrians...that's the trash.
---Would you say they are descendants of the Nestorians, and NOT the Assyrians?

As I've said many times, I don;t care what people say they are in private...but these nationalist idiots have been the real cause behind all the suffering our Nestorian people endured in Iraq and elsewhere

---Would you say the Muslims take little blame for that?

>...it was their foolish trust in the British and more recently the Americans that has brought so much misery and loss to our people.
---This is where I get confused. Who do you expect these people to place their trust into after being under the thumb of Islamic fundies?

>..they are cowards who made sure to run out of Iraq and who now park their arses in America and Europe and spread this nonsense
---What nonsense are you referring to? The nonsense of them being Assyrian?

>like filth over the internet...and they are STILL doing harm to our people in Iraq...they cry that they have enemies, well go and FIGHT your enemies
---They are outnumbered. What do you say to that?
--- Who exactly would you define as their (the assyrians') enemy?

...they are indeed OUR enemies, and we've been fighting them for ten years and more and we are winning...because we don;t run from them, like they ran from Iraq and continue running from us.
---Who is "they". Who is this "we"?

> Why is this? Is there a list of problems that you see in the Assyrian community, or dislike christians, what exactly is it that you have against them as a people?
>
>...I just told you...
>a. we are NOT Assyrians....we were invented out of whole cloth by the Europeans and we can prove it and have, many times.
>
>b. these people constitute a religious sect, actually many of them, who decided, cynically, to adopt an assyrian facade because they knew they couldn't expect to be given a Christian enclave, or get any special rights in Muslim countries, or anywhere else, as Christians...but they thought they MIGHT get something if they became a "nation"....the lost Assyrian nation, to be specific. That is despicable
--What makes it despicable?

>and also a fraud and besides has led to much heartache for those in our community who were content, and still are, to live in Iraq as loyal Iraqis,
---I would like to discuss the merits of being loyal/disloyal to Iraq, but again, I'm not clear on which community you are referring to. Christian Iraqis? Chaldeans? Nestorians?

>which drives these petty nationalists crazy so that they will do anything and say anything to get those people killed or driven out and thereby gain more "martyrs" to their cause so maybe some Westerners will feel sorry for them...and it is our duty, as members of the same community, to tell the truth.

---Again, which community? What is this larger, truer community?

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Why so much animosity toward assyrians? Ghwergis - Wednesday, February 22 2012, 7:00:45 (UTC)
- because they are NOT assyrians.... pancho - 02/22 07:26
  - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Rashad - 02/22 08:04
    - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/22 09:47
      - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Rashad - 02/22 10:37
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/23 19:58
  - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/22 09:22
    - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... pancho - 02/22 13:04
      - Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/23 19:37
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... pancho - 02/23 23:11
        from the archives... pancho - 02/23 23:23
        
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Rashad - 02/24 03:20
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... pancho - 02/24 03:42
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/24 06:31
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Rashad - 02/24 07:03
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... Ghwergis - 02/24 10:10
        Re: because they are NOT assyrians.... pancho - 02/24 11:42

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