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Re: interesting stats...
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Friday, December 30 2011, 14:33:00 (UTC)
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Arrow wrote:
> God, on the other hand, is a controversial issue.
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>>...to you.
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>To billions of people since the dawn of civilization.

...billions of people have been mistaken before...we live, we learrn. Humanity is at a disadvantage when the priests are given unlimited access to young minds....but humanity is winning.
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> The point is that neither you nor the person who claims pigs fly on Mars, or any other unsubstantiated fantasy have any evidence for what you believe
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>Neither do the Atheist physicists who propose equally fantastical alternative cosmological and quantum theories.

...two fools don't make a right. Anyone, whether priest or scientist who thinks he knows, is a fool. But...atheists don;t burn people at the stake for NOT believing in atheism.
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> ...and yet you challenge US to prove you wrong
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>We are not challenging you to prove us wrong. All what I am saying is that you are employing fallacious arguments. You say God doesn't exist because there is no proof. If something hasn't been proven to exist, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

...there you go again with pigs on Mars...because I can't prove they don't exist, you say they MIGHT. You could come up with 654 ridiculous propositions and when I can't prove them wrong, you'll say, "see, I MIGHT be right". You could believe any number of silly things...why does your silliness mean that I have to PROVE you are being silly? That's not the way it works in rational discourse...the person making the fantastic claim, i.e. Gods exist, has the burden of proof...and since you can't prove it, neither do I. It is YOUR statement, you back it up.


Lack of proof is not a proof. You said you know for a fact that God doesn't exist. That is my main objection. Had you said “I believe that God does not exists” or “It is highly unlikely and extremely improbable that there is such a thing as a God” then that would be something else.

...no, I KNOW pigs don;t fly on Mars....there isn't a shred of doubt...anyone claiming they do has the burden of proof...likewise I am as convinced by all the evidence for NO god, that no god exists....to me both statements are absurd, and I don;t have to prove either one. YOU have pulled a god from your arse and expect me to give it "serious thought"..or at least accept that this arse-pulled god MIGHT be real....why on earth would I do that...why would I accept such a ridiculous notion? Because YOU and a billion others believe it?
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> > If there is a God, then it means that we and the universe were created for purpose.
>>...no it doesn't. He's shown himself to be capricious, illogical, cruel beyond belief
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>Why is that?

...anyone who asks for human sacrifice is sick.
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> >It means that we are not here by accident.
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>>...no it doesn't.
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>Yes it does. The universe was either created or brought to existence by sheer chance.

....neither is true...this is a human trying to impose his limitations on the universe...you see a watch and think it proves a watchmaker exists, well, he does, for a watch. But we already know HOW and by WHOM watches are made...we still don't know who made life....my answer is the same one you religious folk give when you're back is against a wall..."it (or god) was ALWAYS there".
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>“So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator” - Stephen Hawking.

...it doesn't have a beginning....it has always been. The universe is nothing more than awareness...and awareness has always been here.....just like god (if you prefer) has always been here...no one made god and no one made awareness.
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> you're ALL nuts!
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>I'm glad to be such a nut. Now if you excuse me, I have to go to Church.

..make sure you enter arse first.



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