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Re: war on Iraq is justifed
Posted by Arrow (Guest) - Sunday, July 10 2011, 1:15:27 (UTC)
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pancho wrote:
>...then the first person to find a better use for your house has the right, nay the obligation, to take it from you and "advance humanity".

- House? No. I'm talking about a different situation. Let's take the colonization of North America. It is a huge land, it wasn't fully populated, and there were primitive nomads here and there...etc. The Europeans had the right to claim the land and build a great, civilized, and prosperous nation in which both they and the Native Americans will be a part of.


>..everyone has their day in the sun, every civilization grows and develops and makes its unique contributions, at its own pace...this world has lost countless treasures and benefits which could have come had people and cultures been allowed to develop and mature at their own pace...

- So if they were left alone the Native Americans would have been building computer chips by now? What is stopping them from being developed now? Do they have to be alone and have their own state? Do they need all North America to be their own.


once upon a time the Euros were savages and the Moors and Muslims the most advanced...would you like to have had the advanced Muslims murder all backwards Christians, because they were less developed?

- No. I didn't say the less developed should be murdered because they are less developed. I am talking about who has the right to claim lands and natural resources.


>...people don't all start out from the same point...that doesn't mean they should be murdered for staring later, or lagging, or hitting a rough spot....you are not as bright as many people...should you be deprived of your property and humanity and rights because of an accident of nature, or timing?

- No. This is not what I meant.


>..Arabs are not brutes...Arabs did not starve to death 700,000 Iraqi babies...Arabs did not exterminate six million Jews and others...Arabs did not bring the world two world wars or atomic bombs or the wide array of weapons of mass destruction the Christian West has and uses against weaker people...

- They're weak and they do not possess the power and the technology to do the above. Why would you assume that if they were a superpower they would behave any differently.


you did not respond to the point about how it would feel to you if someone used your argument to get rid of you and your children....because they were "more advanced" than you and could put to better use your "resources".

- Ofcoarse I do not want anyone to harm me. But concerning the resources, if I had huge tracts of lands just uselessly laying there and oil wells and so on and I am unresourceful to make any use of it, then yeah sure I believe it shouldn't belong to me.

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>....try, really try. It is in facing challenges and not avoiding them that the human mind grows...and if you try that you will be surprised at how your mind will grow, and then you too will be embarrassed by these arguments of yours, which make a lot of sense now because you're used to hugging your prejudices to your chest and taking them to bed with you....that is no way to be human.

Thank you.



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