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Posted by Tiglath (Guest) - Tuesday, February 16 2010, 14:27:44 (CET)
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AssyrianMuslim wrote:
>These nationalists have few answers whenever they are asked for proof that they are direct descendants of the ancients. All of their answers are the same and it goes as follows: A, "we speak Assyrian". B, "we are from Assyria". It's always of such nature or they'll mention a certain someone referring to the area as "Assyria" but such things are not proof.

......This reminds me of an SBS radio interview conducted by Wilson Younan a few years back in which Wilson interviewed an Assyrian guy who has written (read self-published) an Assyrian book that he claimed linked us to our ancestors. When Wilson asked what type of evidnece he presented in the book that linked us to our ancestors the author (and this is no joke) actually said "We have names like Ashur, Ninos and Sargon.....they had names like Ashur, Ninos and Sargon!" It was at that point live on radio that Wilson birst into a fit of laughter along with me at home.

There wasn't even an Assyrian identity few centuries after the fall of Nineveh yet we are told that the today's Christians, who only recently became aware, are their direct descendants. I had a nationalist tell me recently "if we are not Assyrians then what happened to the ancients" and I equally asked "if there are no Chaldeans, Arameans, Summerians etc, what happened to them". I guess they believe the Summerians, Akkadians and others just disappeared but that's not the case. Even the ancient assyrians didn't just disappear but were swept up by Aramization and others. The same happened to the Summerians asnd how they disappeared from history. They didn't just suddenly cease to exist but they were swept up by the Akkadians and they disappeared as a culture, language, identity but their blood carried on and to the very recent Iraqis.

.........I think the very concept of nationalism which implies a specific self-contained identity is in itself limiting. We should view the 5,000 years of Middle Eastern history as not containing people identified as Akkadian, Chaldean, Babylonain, Assyrian, Arab etc. but as a melting pot of people during specific periods. i.e. The Akkadian period, the Babylonian period....right up to the Arabian period of which we should bve equally proud.

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