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Re: To Brother Alfred
By:Maggie Yonan
Date: Thursday, 30 November 2006, at 4:49 am
In Response To: Re: To Brother Alfred (Alfred)
Website: Mess O Potato

Khona Alfred,
You wrote:
"Khata Maggie,
I think you are avoiding the basic issue."
No, I'm not. I am not avoiding anything, but replying to you my honest/unbiased opinions.

"Democracy does not mean that you don't recognize elections results"

Sure, you recognize them, if you don't "suspect" anything.

"unless there is fraud in it and I think you agree that this was not the case in the Iraqi elections with respect to our parties not winning enough seats."

There was RAMPANT fraud EVERYWHERE in Iraq. The Iraqi elections were ILLIGITIMATE from the beginning.

"As a matter of fact, the fraud that came from the Kurdish party KDP to disenfranchise our votes in two occasions, in Ankawa city and in Nineveh Plains, in which our representation was lessened and especially that of the ADM and not anyone else."

You see what I mean? You get fraud in an illigitimate elections.

"Now, you may ask yourself one simple question: Why would these small parties ally themselves with the Kurds and not with ADM to form one national slate based on their capacity and elected votes."

Don't kill the messenger, but this is what "Zowaa's Opposition" says:
Because at the time of Iraqi elections, our people were divided over the name issue, and when some of the other political groups approached the ADM, Kanna decided NOT to work with them, based on the fact he made a UNILATERAL decision, (even without the vote of Zowaa) to forge ahead without their consent. This cost Zowaa tremendously. They also claim that Kanna not only fought a dirty campaign but was instrumental in stamping his Assyrian opposition, by spending BIG money. DOn't kill me please, I'm just the messenger. this is what THEY, (meaning the AUA, ADO, BNDP, ANC, etc.) claim. By the way, why do they ALL claim that? If just ONE person or ONE group believes that, then it is a coincidence, but if they ALL believe it, then it is not. At least, not to someone who is rational and is smart enough to "deduce". But here's the killer: ALL of them also believe that Kanna's name issue did more damage to this nation by this diviision, and that it was all calculated, to the extent of using his power, influence, and money to "buy" whatever and whoever he needed to stay in the Iraqi government, and was on a mission from his "higher ups", (i.e. his "Kurdish masters", his "Vatican masters", and most of all his "Imperialist masters" to "sell-out" Assyria. In other words, they thought he betrayed them ALL. They furthermore claim, that not only he wanted to divide Assyrians politically to conquer them, but also created a schism in the eeta, to finish them off, because he made a deal with the powers that be to comply with the creation of Kurdistan in exchange for a seat.! Now you know as well as I do, that our people are mostly illiterate, naive and eetanayeh, and most of all not very politically savvy, so they may have miscostrued everything Kanna did, but alas, he never once came to them and said, "hey you got it all wrong! Here's the situation", etc., etc. He didn't even care about what the rest of Assyrians thought. Instead, he ignored everyone and proceeded to do what he thought was right. Of course, the other Assyrian side was now mad enough to blast him in the media for his "betrayal" of the nation. This attack did not only come from AssyriaSat, but from all over the place, (forums, paltalk, churches, ETC.) It polarized our people. For all his savvyness, Kanna was removed from the people. This is how it appears to majority Assyrians, and they might be completely wrong, but no one has proven them wrong to date. And like I said before, in the new age, where mass-communication is within a split second, Kanna should not have avoided, but addressed these concerns, immediately.

I personally believe that Kanna tried his best with what he had, and couldn't do what the Assyrians wanted no matter who was telling him what. In a situation like that, you can't win for losing!At least he tried something! However it failed, that's the nature of politics, you win some and you lose some. Now we must get over it and move on. We have to stop this hatred for one another, and ask each other how long can we dwell on this, without tearing our lives apart? That's why my solution is let Kanna stay in the Iraqi parliament, let Sargis Aghajan feed, clothe, and shelter our people, and let the OTHER ASSYRIANS get busy building a national fund and setting up a parliament, so that next elections, we have ONE slate. They can change how this nation has been operating all these years, if they have GUTS! As far as I'm concerned, the only way to legitimize the Assyrian "poltitical movement" is through a parliament. All our gabbas have been hurt recently, but none of them will admit defeat, and none of them want to face each other and start afresh!

" The answer is simple and direct, because ADM would not guarantee their chair as the Kurds would and that was the exact outcome. Now you may say “You can't possibly hate another Assyrian that much, unless you hate yourself!”"

I wish it was that simple, Aflred, but we have BIGGER problems than that. But if you see it that way, then so be it. Even then, we have no other choice. If we are not engaged in buying our own home, we have to rent the Kurdish housing!

"Even with that happen, why would they not raise even one voice to condemn the unjust treatment and marginalization by the Kurds to our only eligible party from the elections?"

Because by then they were LIVID!!! They thought he just cost them their name, their safe-haven, their eeta!
Now I'm NOT saying that's right or wrong, but these are their perceptions, and Kanna is to blame for at least half of those perceptions.

"I just say one last thing here, there the story of the ‘The Fox and The Lion’ came from and no where else. Again, Now you may say “You can't possibly hate another Assyrian that much, unless you hate yourself!”

I say it again, Alfred, because you see it one way, and they see it another. They see it that Kanna not only hijacked Zowaa for his selfish gain, but in the process betrayed "Assyria".

"As for H.H. Mar Dinkha, if this was the case, then what was his meeting and the previous ones as well, with those officials all about? I would be much more relieved if that was the case but the proverb says; I am relieved to listen to your words and shocked when I see your deeds."

Even if it is as "conspiratorial" as you say, Alfred, it is ALL Assyrians against Zowaa, so what is Zowaa going to do? And please don't look at me. I don't want anything from anyone, our people do. That's why it is important for a leader to be accessible, available, honest and direct in his approach to win the hearts and minds of the people.

"Also, what about the clergy work towards church unity? Was not the church schism that caused all this mess or do you know other reasons?"

Like I said, the OTHER ASSYRIANS believe that Zowaa caused the schism. Please don't shoot me, that is what they "claim" and you have to deal with it, not be angry about it.

"Don’t these clergy have any obligations to rectify their previous mistakes made toward this nation and caused this division?"

Sure they do, but they feel that first they have to "SAVE the EETA" from Kanna and Mar Bawai. Again, our people are eetanayeh, first and foremost. They are "Christians" NOT "Assyrians".

"You said that you stopped supporting them and that is great."

Educating our people has to start with US.

"But the question is how do you demonstrate your stance"

The way I personally demonstrate it is to stop my support for ANY organization, gabba, or eeta that foments feuds, wars, splits, schism, hatred for one another, and by educating the young in Assyrianism

"and why it is so different from what you show towards the politicians even when you know the latter are novice in this field and they even don’t have the mandate as the clergy did for 2000 years."

I'm not sure what you are asking me, or if this is just a rhetorical question, but this is how it will always be with our oumta so long as we have no institutional structures by which to identify "Assyria" and the Assyrians. Once we reach the level of other nations, we will realize that we actually needed an Assyrian parliament a long, long, time ago, to organize us, to define us, to legitimize us, and to validate us.

"I really wish I was wrong!"

I don't think it is a matter of being "right" or "wrong" as evolution needs involution, the act of being INVOLVED. After all, it is our world and we are the only ones that can change it. There are no messiahs coming to save us.

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