The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5
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The tragedy of Turkey is that it tried valiantly to extend toleration to Christians and Jews and succeeded for four centuries at least until the combined Christian powers attacked it and destroyed the Millet system. After the Reformation and with the growth of Protestant communities Christians kings stridently believed that for a nation to be secure only one religion could be tolerated. In Catholic countries Protestants were mercilessly hunted down, tortured and killed, their children taken from them, their property confiscated…with the rise of Protestant countries the favor was returned and Catholics were made to suffer equally. Muslims had already been expelled from Christian lands and Jews were chased and harassed almost everywhere in Europe. Over the slightest change in doctrine Christians went berserk committing the most barbarous acts against their own neighbors, friends and families to their own utter ruin. France suffered 32 years of religious warfare which left the country destitute…Germany was brought to ruin after 30 years of religious warfare. England had a Civil War among its religious orders, The Netherlands suffered a hundred years of religious persecution at the hands of Spain. Citizen killed citizen…Christian slaughtered Christian…property was destroyed, the state weakened until some measure of tolerance could be enforced. Who can tell how many innocent Christians were killed by Christians over Christianity.. In all that time Christians of every sect and Jews lived in peace among the Muslim Ottomans. It’s a truism that whatever Christians accuse others of, they are most guilty of themselves. The occupation of Ottoman lands by the Russians brought the Turks into contact with hostile Christianity. The Christian armies enlisted the aid of local Christians in a campaign of slaughter against Muslims. In the 19th century the French and British forced their way into Istanbul as diplomats and rung concessions from the Sultan. Missionaries from America, England and France entered Ottoman lands at will. With the help of local Christians they set about establishing schools and churches with the avowed goal of converting the Sultan’s subjects. They sought no permission and with the backing of their diplomats forced concessions from the Ottoman government and strife among tribes. It wasn’t the Turks who turned on their Christian population, it was the foreign Christians who saw in the local Christians “soldiers for Christ” in a campaign to stamp out the religion of the land because Christians believed it to be “evil”. When war finally came the local Christians accepted arms and money to fight against their countrymen and government, a government which had shown greater tolerance for them than Christian countries had shown to their “heretical” Christians. In the case of our people specifically, all of them would have been deemed heretics by the very Christians they fought for…indeed many missionaries had the same contempt for them they felt for Muslims. Their first task was to “reform” the Nestorians and save them from damnation after which they would employ them to attack Islam. To the Turkish officials their Christian subjects came to be a liability to the security of the State. That and unreliably unbalanced to risk their security for the favor of the foreigners who barely tolerated each other only a few decades before. It stood to reason that the Turks would suddenly realize what Christian nations had been practicing for centuries; that for a nation to survive there had to be only one religion. This idea didn’t originate with the Muslims but Christian attacks in which local Christians became complicit taught them the lesson. But still they never set out to cleanse their country of Christians…as Catholic and Protestant powers had tried to do with their heretics. The Christians along the borders through which the missionaries came had to be moved, not because the Turks “hated Christianity” but because these people had shown themselves receptive to foreign agents hiding behind the cross. This was a far cry from the systematic rounding up of Jews the Christians enforced later…or the massacre of isolated Native American families…or countless other exterminations of native people the British and Americans, French and Germans indulged in. Had western Christianity left the Turks in peace, the Christians there would have been left undisturbed. To cover their part in the discontinuance of centuries of tolerance in Turkey, Christians today are encouraged to accuse the Ottomans of fomenting “genocide” simply because they “hate Christianity”. The Turks tolerated Christianity more than any Christian ever tolerated Muslims or Jews…even more than they tolerated each other. It’s a pity Turkey was forced to join the Christian nations in attacks against Christians. But Christian inroads and intrigue forced it upon them…and let’s not forget that they were correct in their assumption that the missionaries were merely the frontline troops in what became a war which destroyed their empire. Turkey has nothing to apologize for except to note that they could not bring themselves to act much better than the Christian nations…though their provocation was far more extreme than any Christian sect gave to a ruling majority of Christians. Instead of being defensive when accused the Turks should study European and American history thoroughly until they can easily point out the far greater intolerance shown by Christian against Christian. After which they can offer to apologize when the rest of the Christian world apologizes for its crimes against Christians, pays reparation, gives back property and promises to never again attack people or defame them for their religion or seek to evangelize anyone. I seriously doubt Deniz was killed by a Muslim because he was working on Seyfo issues. There’s no need to kill such researchers or fear their work. It’s enough to educate them beyond the jingoistic diatribes their church has taught them…that and their partisan reading of history. I don’t think Deniz, a well-respected scholar, was cut from that cloth. It’s just as likely that another assassin, one of us, killed him because he was fair-minded and as such was “wasting” his academic standing by not championing Seyfo. A Qurd killed one Marshimun…but one of us killed the second. Which is the worse crime? --------------------- |
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