The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> Their "proof" is just opinions

Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Sunday, February 5 2012, 8:49:21 (UTC)
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There is a reason they feel uncomfortable when challenged and start avoiding the topic by calling you names, accusing you of being Kurd and the other silly things. They can't stand up to the challenge so they feel insulted and say you're "rude to me" and it gets even more funny because these are the very people who call your mother names but they feel insulted. I have had about eight years of experience in dealing with these people, and I was one of them at one point as well. I use to worship what Aprim and his likes wrote and I use to see him as such a brave "warrior" until when I embarrassed myself on an Assyrian forum where nobody would debate this Suryani guy and I decided to do it. He had an objection about being called Assyrian and he said the British invented us and we ran with it. I got offended and asked him if the British also taught us our Assyrian language and gave us our Assyrian names, and he laughed at me and never have I felt more embarrassed over the internet than that one particular time. He had to remind me that I don't speak Assyrian to begin with and this is where my journey began. I had been reading the garbage from amateurs and janitors all of my life so i decided to look elsewhere.

From that time until now, I have climbed to the other side of the fence and chose to fight my own because I prefer truth over myths. If I were a Kurd, Arab, Turk, Senegalese or whatever, I would be proud just as I am proud of what I am. Our nationalists can't live with that so they think they insult us when they call our mothers names, tell us our mothers slept with Muslims, or other things. I am not like these silly Christians and I don't run from words. Words don't scare me and nothing scares me. i don't care if i die this minute and those who tell me to fear hell, I will piss in their mouth and the mouth of their god. Now I will get to educating our lost little Christian who wants to give us links.

Before I even checked to see where you copied and paced the crap from, I knew it was written by a bunch of Assyrian nationalists and all of them amateurs. I scrolled down, and I was correct when I saw "Christians of Iraq" and I know that site very well. This is a silly Christian propaganda website where these amateurs get facts from their own ass and post it as proof. They can fool their own sheep who look up to them and maybe, once in a blue moon, they can grab the attention of some silly white person. These links are no different from wikipedia and anyone cant write on there. So, ashur, if you want to seriously talk, I am here and not hiding. Never ran and never will run from anyone. I was born to rip my enemy and I will do it like I am smoking a Newport. You can write in capital letters, lie about me on Youtube with your multiple accounts, tell others to come on my old page and call me names, none of that will scare me nor stop me. You know how many of your kind have blocked me after they came on my page and called me names? I lost count but I never run.

This is an open forum and it's the best place to go at it without being stopped or banned. I don't have to prove I am from your community to you as you are not important to me and I am not important either. This isn't about me but about what I say. I have my own opinions and so do you but I have facts along with my opinions and you do not. The crap you give us is opinions. That's what all those silly websites are which are sop old and boring. This is so ten years ago for me and it's funny nothing has changed on those silly sites. I am long past that and on a different level. Your opinions are only that and you get other amateurs like yourself and who agree with you to support your ideas. I can do that as well but I can bring the works of historians and it's over after that. An opinion and a fact is not the same.

Therefore, when you say that you have been Assyrians all along and there always was an Assyrian identity for the last 2,000 years, I know you're lying and this lie is based on your opinions and lies you picked up from others like you. It was in 1976 that our church adopted the Assyrian name. It was around the mid 1850s that our nationalism began and it was made by the British so we would rise up against the Ottoman empire. This uprising of ours against the Ottomans, who had been kind to us, led to the massacres of 1915 and it is no coincidence it happened during that time period. It didn't happen at any other time during the many centuries we lived in the Ottoman empire with our own courts, representatives, culture, religion etc. It happened only after we joined those foreigners who wanted to defeat the Ottomans to get their hands on the oil reserves. They fooled us with that white Jewish fucker/carpenter and we fell for it.

We called ourselves; Suraye, Suryoye, etc, and all the Syriac Christian denominations used this and had no problem with it. Now you tell a Chaldean or a Suryani that he is Assyrian and he will more likely throw punches, but not when you call him "Suraya." Then you have our silly nationalists who try to get cute by saying that Suraya/Aturaya is the same name, thus, we were assyrian all along. But this, too, is bullshit and they know it just as I do. Suraya, which is what we called ourselves, means Syrian, and Syrian became used for the Arameans. Not saying everyone who speaks Aramaic is Aramean but that is what "Suraya" means. Some say that Syria and Assyria is the same, but if so, why don't you nationalists just call yourselves "Syrian" in that case? It's because,A, you know it's not really true, B, Syria is Arab and Muslim today and you don't wanna be connected with them "evil Mohammedans."

You can call yourself what you like but don't think you can fool everyone with that. John Joseph is a historian on the Middle East and the Syriac speaking Christians. You can't make the same claims about William Warda, Peter, Aprim, etc. They can't even be compared because they are different and not qualified. So I welcome your evidence and sources, but I will warn you in advance that I will laugh at you and them if it comes from those silly websites which are so old to me. I've done evolved since then and will never waste my time with those clowns. If you wanna be friends, that's fine, you wanna seriously get down, even better, and if you wanna talk voice to voice, that sounds like a creep to me and I don't get down like that. It doesn't mean I am gay just because I don't oppose them. We can talk on here but I am not doing any of those silly verifications you expect. I am not a Kurd and I would not be ashamed if I was nor would I pretend to be Assyrian and I am not jealous of your "nation." I speak Surith fluently and even that wouldn't prove anything as there are many Kurds who can speak our language fluently.

I have only met a few Kurds my entire life and all of them have been nice. I cans ay one thing for sure, and the accusations you guys make against Kurds is actually true of yourselves. It is you who hide on internet, change names, have multiple accounts and other scams. I doubt Kurds even take you all serious and that could be why I don't see hardly any respond to you guys. Kurds have fought for their land and you have always ran from place to place, and you continue to run but not from arrows or guns but from words.

I really don't care if you believe me or not and if you call me a Kurd but I will be honest with you and admit that it bothers me when you call Pancho a Kurd. This man is strong and don't need me to back him nor does he get offended by your words, but if there is anyone who has done anything related to Assyrians, it's him. If anyone has a right to say he is Assyrian and has done something that is in relations to the ancients, it's this man. I have told you before and I will say it again; if you had any idea who this person is that you accuse of working against your silly nation, you would actually feel a little low, and that's only if you have any dignity, and I be honest and straight with you by saying i don't believe you have any. I hadn't spoken to you in a long time, but respected you just from having peaceful conversations with you, but I have lost my respect for you. Not upset but disappointed yet I will live without losing sleep over it. I am glad you came on here even if it's just briefly because you just confirmed my theory that you people play a lot of games on the internet and do the same thing you accuse Kurds of.

You are welcomed to debate me and I am on this forum mostly. I don't do youtube no more other than watching videos and listen to music. There is too much regulation on there and too much bullshit. We can talk on here and have a debate or whatever. I am ready whenever you are, and you can take this as a challenge from me if you like, but we could also avoid wasting our times because I am sure what you have to say has been discussed and refuted on here many times in the past. Many like you have come and gone and they have all banned themselves and said they don't have time to waste but they still have plenty of time to waste with slandering Muslims, being heroes on other forums and drinking urine. Hope to hear from you, and won't surprise me if you run. After all, you are a Christian and you love running

You can bring your proof/opinions even if that's all you have. We will gladly take a look at it even if we have repeated ourselves many times.

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