The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Tuesday, September 21 2010, 22:29:59 (UTC)
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...from a whole pile of shit...

"Since the days of Sultan Osman the 1st in the 14th century, his son Orkhan Ghazi, and Murad the 3rd, Assyrians, Arminians and Greeks were pursued as the Ottomans occupied Constantinople and the Byzantine culture was destroyed and forcibly replaced by Islam, and over centuries the Christians who are the indigenous people of what is today known as Turkey were subjected to oppression, killing and Islamization according to a “legislation by God” as the occupiers believed and still believe."

...if Gewargis was less a taxi-driver and more of a "researcher" his research might have reveled that no one destroyed Byzantine culture and cities and wealth than other Christians. During the fourth Crusade the Christian armies, who´d previously marvelled at what was then the wealthiest city in the world, decided to attack Constantinople, instead of the Holy Land...that would be in the 11th century I believe. They sacked the city, murdered their fellow Christians by hundreds of thousands and imposed their own rule for several years...and oh yes, they outlawed the Orthodox religion of the Eastern Christians, killed their priests and converted all people to the Latin service.

...What the Turks achieved was a military victory and once it was secured they treated the Christians with tolerance, as well as the Jews. What we´re really witnessing when we hear assholes such as Gewargis claim Muslims "massacred" Christians "just for their religion" is a case of Christian terrorists who refused to abide by any Muslim law and who rebelled and as a consequences were dealt with AS REBELS. What Gewargis really wants or expects to convince the world is that Christians must have carte blanche whenever they are subject to Muslim laws and traditions...they must be allowed to rebel, to blaspheme, to insult at will....and no one can move against them for they will cry PERSECUTION and GENOCIDE etc.

..what he also fails to mention is that Christians from the Balkans and Greece and other places ran INTO the Sultan´s lands to escape Christian persecution and onerous taxes....they stole away in the night with their families and herds to ESCAPE their fellow-Christians. Gewargis doesn´t mention this because he is ignorant of it...and even if he did know it, it´s not the kind of information found during his "research" that he would use...same as Aprim who scours history books only to find anything that can be twisted out of shape and meaning, or taken out of context...same with this dweeb.

Gewargis understands full well that in Australia and any other Christian country assyrians MUST obey laws and to break them deserves punishment. But in Muslim countries that must not apply. That´s really what´s behind this "they murdered us" refrain.

In a war, the winner always "imposes his culture and religion too" What the hell is so strange or evil in that? You mean Christians NEVER imposed their will, including their religion, on those whom they defeated...or enslaved? really?

I don´t know what Gewargis´s educational level is, or his profession. I have no idea how he supports himself...if he drives a cab or is an engineer or a doctor or what. What I do know is that Christian historians, real ones whom you would expect to back up his nonsense, just for Christian solidarity, all refute his claims. This is stuff he has "researched" from Aprim´s books...from Seyfo and missionary tracts...it is all Christian propaganda...all of it.

You can bet your last Christian that if there was ANY real historical proof and documentation...if Lord Russell supported Gewargis in any way, he would be bringing Russell and Durant and hundreds of professionals to help make his case. But he has none...he has literally nothing but what granny told him and his priests and other like-minded bigots who hate Islam just for being Islam...as they murdered Jews JUST for being Jews.

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Hilarious Speech Made by Ashur Gewragis... pancho - Tuesday, September 21 2010, 20:14:10 (UTC)
- To Choose Only One Turd.. pancho - 09/21 22:29
  - that handy definition of genocide...again pancho - 09/21 23:24
- more errors... pancho - 09/21 23:35
  - Too hiliarious Rashad - 09/22 20:50
- refeernces...sources....bibliography...granny? pancho - 09/22 02:39
  - Re: refeernces...sources....bibliography...granny? Rashad - 09/22 04:48

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