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Young American Jew in opposition

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A young American Jew descrihttp://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/a-young-american-jew-describes-being-arrested-for-standing-in-opposition-to-the-jerusalem-day-parade.htmlbes being arrested for standing in opposition to the Jerusalem Day parade by Adam Horowitz on June 10, 2011 Like 493 Retweet 63. The young man being arrested in the video above is Lucas Koerner, and he was a member of the delegation that I recently co-led to Israel/Palestine. Below is Lucas's account of what took place in Jerusalem, which he originally posted on his blog. Returning from Hebron Wednesday afternoon, I glanced outside my window, only to see miles and miles of blue and white. Today was Jerusalem Day, and a parade of thousands marched through the streets celebrating, as if in an orgy of nationalistic fervor, the 44th anniversary of the Israeli conquest of East Jerusalem. What shocked me initially was how eerily monolithic the procession was: it seemed as though the ocean of Israeli flags was meant to blur all distinctions between old and young, boss and worker, women and men, settler and 48er. In light of the events of recent days, I sensed a strong political undertone beneath the cheers and yells of the ecstatic crowds. Coming on the heels of Netanyahu’s defiant speech before Congress, it appeared to me that the marchers streaming down Sultan Suleiman St. that evening sought to echo their PM’s bold remarks, that all of Jerusalem was “theirs” forever. Indeed, it seemed that this display of triumphal nostalgia concealed a deeper, far weaker emotion, a lurking fear of a future in which nothing between the river and the sea would be exclusively “theirs” but would have to be shared with the other. After witnessing first hand, over the past week and a half, the many horrors the occupation has inflicted on the Palestinian people, my fellow delegates and I trembled with indignation at the chutzpah of these Israeli marchers as they boisterously paraded through East Jerusalem, brandishing their flags of conquest. Prompted by the traffic to walk the rest of the way to our hotel, we were inspired to launch an impromptu parade of our own. Donning our keffiyehs we had purchased at the Hebron Keffiyeh factory and our small Palestinian flags, we we’re met by spit, aluminum cans, and pure, unadulterated hatred. Police instantly set upon us, accosting me, demanding that I put away my 3 by 5 inch Palestinian flag. It was remarkable how so much as giving voice to the other, the “Arab”, the Palestinian, in 3 by 5 form in E. Jerusalem no less could ignite such visceral fear and hatred. Upon returning to the Holy Land Hotel, my comrades (Haneen, Amanda, Peter, Lydia, Tammy & Tiffany) and I decided that we would go back to the parade merely to hang out and observe, this time without our small Palestinian flags. In order to avoid any provocations, we simply posted up on the side walk, and, still wearing our keffiyehs, we proceeded to wave and make peace sign gestures to the paraders, who marched on the other side of the street, separated from us by a high gate. The initial reaction of the marchers was a combination of shock and disbelief. I myself had elected to wear, along with my keffiyeh, a kippah adorned with a small Palestinian flag. This last article of clothing on my head contributed, I believe, more than anything else to the climate of collective bewilderment, especially among the youth. For them, Judaism and its physical symbol, the kippah, were inseparably bound up with the particular strain of ethno-religious nationalism associated with the state of Israel. It simply never occurred to them that a Jewish person would, in the name of Jewish ethics, stand in solidarity with the oppressed Palestinian people in their struggle for freedom. I feel that it was precisely this cognitive dissonance on a societal level that formed the motivation for my arrest. As we walked up and down the sidewalk, waving our peace signs, many Palestinians of all ages approached to join us. With twenty or thirty people now gathered on the sidewalk facing the parade, we turned over leadership of what had become a demonstration to Palestinian activists, and we happily clapped and danced to their songs and chants. Standing on two feet high pylons, we tried to maintain our visibility as internationals in order to confer as much protection as possible to the Palestinians. The demonstration remained totally peaceful - just singing, whistling, and clapping. In fact, much to the chagrin of the paraders, we often danced to their music. Many Palestinians, fascinated with my kippah, approached me and exclaimed, “I love you”. For a moment, a space was opened for Palestinians to freely gather in their own streets and protest, peacefully demanding their basic rights. We were soon to learn just how brief that moment would be. Suddenly, the police moved in without warning of any kind. Officers on horseback came so close to the sidewalk, nearly hitting some of the demonstrators. I stepped down from the pylon. In that instant, my impulse to flee was counteracted by the firm realization that, standing on a sidewalk waving a peace sign, I had every right to be there, and if I fled, who would stand with the Palestinians? I stepped back up on the pylon. Moments later, an Israeli police officer ran up, seized me, and dragged me to the other side of the street. He then punched me in the face, put me in a choke hold, and with four other officers, slammed me to the ground. I was eventually handcuffed and carried to the car; I allowed my body to go limp and refused to walk on my own in a gesture of nonviolent defiance. Throughout the whole affair, the only thing audible coming from the policemen was a constant stream of curses words, “motherfucker”, “piece of shit”, etc., which was to me a ringing confirmation of how infuriated and threatened they were by a 19-year old wearing a kippah and a keffiyeh standing with the Palestinians. To be continued in the next post: “In Israeli Jail” .{ 98 comments… read them below or add one } MRW June 9, 2011 at 9:11 pm I’m looking forward to the next installment. Bravo. Log in to Reply . Linda J June 9, 2011 at 9:22 pm That’s what I would call “staying human,” Lucas Koerner! My admiration and best wishes. Log in to Reply . Shingo June 9, 2011 at 9:44 pm What an amazing youg man! He didn’t just talk tough, he maintained his convictions while beaten assaulted and beaten. That’s courage. What a welcome he was given to the facist state of Israel. We’re going to see a lot more of these images – Israeli beating up and brutalizing Jews. Log in to Reply . Bumblebye June 9, 2011 at 10:01 pm A gang of uniformed thugs. This is how Israel treats the mildest forms of dissent? Even that takes some courage in Israel. An oppressive and increasingly extreme culture, so what happens to young Israelis and their potential future lives when they speak out? At least Lucas can go home to the US. What will have to happen there before the US government can ignore the Lobby, what would have to happen to shame the Lobby and shut it up even temporarily? Log in to Reply . James June 9, 2011 at 11:27 pm “A gang of uniformed thugs. This is how Israel treats the mildest forms of dissent?” hey it’s a democracy, lol…. kudos to lucas! Log in to Reply . marc b. June 10, 2011 at 9:20 am incredible, lucas! (jeesh, an exclamation point.) he is a symbol of jewish moral strength and resilience, not these fragile, latte-drinking fascists in blue and white, whose ego crumbles under the weight of a single critical word. Log in to Reply . eljay June 9, 2011 at 10:26 pm >> … an Israeli police officer ran up, seized me, and dragged me to the other side of the street. He then punched me in the face, put me in a choke hold, and with four other officers, slammed me to the ground. I was eventually handcuffed and carried to the car … Throughout the whole affair, the only thing audible coming from the policemen was a constant stream of curses words, “motherfucker”, “piece of shit”, etc., which was to me a ringing confirmation of how infuriated and threatened they were by a 19-year old wearing a kippah and a keffiyeh standing with the Palestinians. Clearly, solidarity and Hamas are to blame for the actions of these “generation to generation” fear-scarred, “Jewish state” thugs. >:-( You are a brave young man, Mr. Koerner. Kudos to you. Log in to Reply . Shunra June 9, 2011 at 11:29 pm That is a very impressive video. And I think Mr. Kroener is correct about the cognitive dissonance of seeing a man wearing a yarmulke/kipa and saying what he did. I found myself responding quite viscerally to the way those two visual cues clashed. It’s an impressive lesson. Log in to Reply . HRK June 9, 2011 at 11:36 pm What can I say–I’m truly amazed. When I was his age, I was magnitudes of times less mature. Wow! Log in to Reply . ToivoS June 9, 2011 at 11:40 pm Wow. Impressive. It is amazing how the Israelis are turning the symbol of the star of David into a symbol of oppression. That is their choice, of course. After all, they have the backing of the world’s major superpower. It comes down to don’t f*** with us because we have the US military behind us. Log in to Reply . Seham June 9, 2011 at 11:47 pm I LOVE this dude. Log in to Reply . Seham June 10, 2011 at 12:15 am It’s interesting what’s happening with the Palestine/Israeli conflict ain’t it? After all these years and all the money that Israel has spent to spin their little propaganda all over the world on various types of media, I find *myself* actually feeling sorry for Jews that get their religion gets tarnished with the thuggish brutality of the Zionist state. Israel does to Jews what Bin Laden did to Muslims. Log in to Reply . Shingo June 10, 2011 at 3:18 am I hate to sound patronising, but Lucas is teh epitome of everything that made Judaism such a powerful force throughout history. He is a credit to all Jews. Hiw blog entry reveals a young man with a remarkable insight and perception: Indeed, it seemed that this display of triumphal nostalgia concealed a deeper, far weaker emotion, a lurking fear of a future in which nothing between the river and the sea would be exclusively “theirs” but would have to be shared with the other. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:00 am “I hate to sound patronising, but Lucas is teh epitome of everything that made Judaism such a powerful force throughout history. He is a credit to all Jews.” Lucas is a credit to human kind. This myth fueling that Jews have as a collective group been involved with human rights issues is just that a myth. Ridiculous and inaccurate. Phillip and a few others at this site repeat that hooey. No facts to back up such collective glorification Log in to Reply . Antidote June 10, 2011 at 10:39 am I basically agree it’s a myth, Kathleen. Disproportional Jewish promotion of human rights, equality, unrestricted immigration for all ethnic/religious groups, liberalism and communism (a secular version of Christian values) was and is, as far as I can tell, a feature that developed in the Diaspora, where Jews were always a small and frequently oppressed and persecuted minority of outliers. It was obviously in their self-interest, consciously or not, to support such values in order to simultaneously benefit and counter charges of selfish-clannish self-promotion (a frequent accusation of Gentiles who have forever accused Jews of wanting to rule over them whenever they pushed for equal rights, a suspicion supported by certain passages in the Torah and the Talmuds). But see what happens if a liberal American Jew goes to Israel to demand equal rights and unrestricted immigration/ROR for Palestinians. He gets beaten up and locked up. This clash between ‘Jewish values’ emphasized in the Diaspora and ‘Jewish values’ in the Jewish majority state was and is inevitable. I hasten to add that Christians were and are no more hypocritical about ‘Christian values’. Preaching Christian brotherhood and love was always shot through with elite concerns of ruling over pagan or otherwise heretical majorities and minorities. A history of bloodshed and oppression. Log in to Reply . hophmi June 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm “This myth fueling that Jews have as a collective group been involved with human rights issues is just that a myth. Ridiculous and inaccurate.” Fueling what? What myth? Who made up the myth? Who claims the myth? Do you deny that there are a disproportionate number of Jews involved in human rights activism? Do you deny that Jews were organizationally an integral part of the civil rights movement and disproportionate involved in the civil rights movement? Do you deny that the most public support for the Part51 project came from Mike Bloomberg, a Jewish mayor? Do you deny that Jews are disproportionate involved in social justice movement in the United States? Do you deny that Jews are also disproportionately involved in the pro-Palestinian movement? You seem obsessed with trying to make the case that Jews are somehow less involved in these causes than they actually are. What is your reason for this? Log in to Reply . Woody Tanaka June 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm hophmi, I think that a very good case could be made that Jews, when outside of Israel, are integral parts of human rights initiatives, whereas Jews inside Israel (or Jews outside Israel discussing situations in Israel) are supporters, beneficiaries and perpetrators of human rights violations against the Palestinians. Often, as with many of the Soviet Jews and American Jews, they are often one and the same person. (Cf., e.g., the “PEP” phenomenon.) It seems, from that argument, that the support for human rights would be not out of any sense of social justice, but from a practical sense of what benefits them. (When in the US, no mixing of religion and state; but in Israel, the state is defined by a particular religion.) I’m not sure I agree with this thinking in its entirety, but you would be a fool to deny that there is some kernel of truth to it. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:27 pm But do not hear Christians I know always repeating that they have a collective history of always standing up for the underdogs. If I did I would slam them. Because we know that Christianity has had a twisted and sordid past when it comes to human rights. So get tired of the “Jewish identity” claim that Jews have this history of standing up as a collective unit for the human rights of others. Total hooey Log in to Reply . gazacalling June 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm Thousands of years of history is way too much material to make effective generalizations about. So talking in terms of empirical history is nothing but myth-making. However, should we think that myths are meaningless? Of course not. The true identity of Christians and Jews is standing up for the rights of the oppressed. Do they both violate this throughout their empirical histories? Of course. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that this is wrong according to their own beliefs. This very myth, that standing up for the oppressed is what the good Christian and good Jew does, is constitutive of these religions and provides the resources for calling their members out for poor behavior, back to their true identity. It’s a powerful thing to point out the perpetration of oppression by Christians and Jews as a deviation from their true essence. Isn’t it? The myths provide the language, the material, the images that will really resonate with anyone who takes these belief systems seriously. Of course it is a myth, but it’s vital to recognize that there can be true and false myths — or better, that myths are on a continuum in which some are more true (reflect human experience better and more deeply) than others. Why is Dostoyevsky better to read than superhero comic books? They are both literature, both fundamentally “untrue” on some level. Yet one is a deep reflection on human experience, while the other is usually silly wish-fulfillment. When we talk about societies and social behavior, we are multiplying variables so exponentially fast — trying to include so many different people and actions and transactions and behaviors — that we inevitably have to cut things down to size, reduce things to patterns and stereotypes and myths. The only healthy way to do this is to do it self-consciously, to realize that your knowledge is incomplete and fragmentary, and that in large part you are in fact evaluating myths. Yet some myths are better and more true than others, so they need to be evaluated. Living up to the demands of Christian belief or Jewish prophetism is difficult and flawed human beings will fail to do it even when they try. But this doesn’t mean the attempt isn’t noble, or that we shouldn’t celebrate those who succeed! Lucas is the epitome of everything that made Judaism such a powerful force throughout history. He is a credit to all Jews! Log in to Reply . justicewillprevail June 10, 2011 at 3:14 pm If there are Jewish people involved in the civil rights movement, then it is because they are Americans, democrats, liberals and most of all humanists. They happen to be Jewish, so what? There are also Christians, Buddhists and atheists. If you are trying to claim that Judaism is historically intrinsic to civil rights then it is at odds with the Judaism practiced in Israel. Conclusion: your religion might have values in common with civil rights and equality – it doesn’t mean you either practice them or that they ‘belong’ to your tradition, any more than any other cultural tradition. Certainly Israel is doing its best to trash the liberal Jewish values practiced in America, but American Jewishness hasn’t much in common with Israeli Jewishness. They are culturally different traditions. Log in to Reply . gazacalling June 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm OK, that last part might be right. But the part that reduces striving for civil rights to “humanism” is wrong. The struggle for civil rights draws enormous strength from religious traditions. This is actually a historical fact. What does “humanism” mean? It means standing up for the oppressed, for all human persons, just because they are persons, apart from whether we are in the same group. Right? Well, this idea is a powerfully religious idea, because it gives the reason behind this maxim, namely that everyone is a child of God, created in the image and likeness of God, and therefore deserves great respect. Can you detach this ideal of conduct from its religious grounding? Certainly you can try to do this, but that’s not the point. The point is that is an ideal of these religions, and that this is the ideal is undeniable. So when someone lives up to them, it brings credit on them and on their religious tradition, which preaches what they put in practice. Only if you’re really biased against religion and want to always dismiss its importance this is hard to accept. It is unfortunate but true that the conduct of religious adherents give plenty of reason for cynicism and bias against it. But, there’s also plenty of examples of people who live up to the true essence of their religion, and this must be entered into the record. Log in to Reply . GalenSword June 10, 2011 at 3:43 pm The cops were acting in the tradition of Polish Jewish communities, which as an autonomous elite group within Commonwealth Poland had the right and obligation to self-police and which tried to crush any deviance. Jews that reached out for universal justice typically rejected and were rejected by the Jewish community. After the partitions of Poland the upper mercantile class lost control of the Jewish community and we see the development of Jewish radicalism in opposition to all Jewish traditions. The dynamic among Zionism, Jewish radicalism, and various forms of Jewish traditionalism becomes very complex toward the end of the 19th century. Log in to Reply . Walid June 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm Justice, for a change Hophmi is not that wrong; call it what you want and you can include or exclude the religion and ethics of it but any which way you look at it from the American experience, when it came to philantropy the Jews have always been at the head of the class. It’s not the baloney as some here are saying, from the perspective pf the Palestinian conflict, I’m seeing many more Jewish organizations trying to better the lives of the Palestinians than Arab ones. I’m sure we all know by name at least a dozen or so Jewish groups out of 30 or 40 working for the Palestinians’ human rights inside Israel and the WB; how many Arab ones do we know? Let’s not discredit the work of these Jewish organizations because of how we feel about the Zionist creeps. So the Jews brag about their collective human rights record, some have earned that right but it’s wrong to disparage or discredit a whole group based on the vile actions of some Israelis. Log in to Reply . justicewillprevail June 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm I am not against religion, but most of modern ideas around emancipation, rights and equality stem from the Enlightenment. As does rationalism, the powerful force behind Marx and Freud, if you want two Jewish examples. Religion can give succour to radicals and conservatives, it doesn’t necessarily entail one or the other. That is a matter of interpretation. The Enlightenment, on the other hand, encouraged radical scepticism, as opposed to faith in authority and mythology. Log in to Reply . Citizen June 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm Walid, those who constantly remind everybody they are the most charitable folks are not necessarily the most charitable, especially when it comes down to the actual and regular sacrifices made for charitable purposes. In point of fact Americans are by far the most charitable people in the world, and everyday low-income working class families are the most generous group in America, especially church-goers, and it’s not because of tax deuctions because they mostly don’t itemize their tax deductions. Details here: link to american.com Log in to Reply . gazacalling June 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm Yeah, and let’s not forget that Zionism was thoroughly secular in its beginnings, though things changed after ’67. Log in to Reply . Woody Tanaka June 10, 2011 at 1:24 am Lucas, please take care of yourself. Those Israelis won’t blink twice about murdering an American in cold blood, if history is any guide. Log in to Reply . American June 10, 2011 at 2:25 am I hope I live long enough to see Lucas Koernerpe become President of the US . More of a man at 19 than anything in Washington today. Good for you Lucas. Log in to Reply . sky7i June 10, 2011 at 3:08 am One altruist outshines and befuddles a thousand automatons, inspiring hope in humanity. Awesome! Log in to Reply . Walid June 10, 2011 at 4:35 am Bravo to Lucas and to all Jews of good will. What a difference beween him and the Zionist apologists lurking around Mondo. Log in to Reply . talknic June 10, 2011 at 5:27 am Bravo A fine example There will be more and more and more Log in to Reply . thankgodimatheist June 10, 2011 at 5:27 am A fine young man! The way he was arrested you’d think they’re neutralising an axe wielding mass murderer! I felt like throwing up! I’m assuming he had no prior knowledge of how outspoken dissent is faced in Israel. Maybe he had already though unconsciously bought the idea that after all Israel is still a democracy where free speech is tolerated! Not so now, mind you! Log in to Reply . Janet Green June 10, 2011 at 5:50 am Congratulations on standing up for human rights in such unfavourable circumstances. Log in to Reply . upsidedownism June 10, 2011 at 6:50 am Israelis love to celebrate their real live jewish heros, don’t they? Now all they have to do is visit Lucas, in jail. It reminds of Bono’s foolish question, where are the gandhi’s in the Israel/Palestine conflict? Just like Mohandas Gandhi, they can be found in British built jails. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 8:57 am Bono’s question was so foolish. So many Palestinian Gandhi “s thrown in Israeli prisons for decades. The Gandhi approach is expanding. Tough for Israeli soldiers and officers to keep up with. Along with facts on the ground, arrest, protest getting out on the internet etc Log in to Reply . Mndwss June 10, 2011 at 11:43 am “Israelis love to celebrate their real live jewish heros, don’t they?” Yes Mr. Koerner and people like him is now being hated as false prophets. When Israel realize they can no longer continue their oppression and starts to behave, then they will claim that they have always supported these people. It is sad that false prophets usually are dead for a long time before they are called true prophets. Log in to Reply . hophmi June 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm As usual, the arrest begins exactly at the point when police apprehend the subject, so that we have no idea what happened before that. He admits resisting arrest, and he admits not showing his passport when asked, a request that is perfect reasonable for a police officer to make of a person who is not a citizen, particularly in an area where security is a serious matter. Most Americans who do this (and there have been plenty) are not bothered in any way. As usual, you all make judgments from the security of own homes about a society where heightened security is a real issue day-to-day. It is typical of a mindset that says it is perfectly OK for civilians to die so long as they are Israeli, and even better if they are Jews. Log in to Reply . Woody Tanaka June 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm “It is typical of a mindset that says it is perfectly OK for civilians to die so long as they are Israeli, and even better if they are Jews.” And people like Lucas, standing there with his Palestinian flag, might also steal Israel’s precious bodily fluids!! Log in to Reply . Citizen June 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm Why did the Israeli cops ask for his passport when all he was doing was stating his POV on the Israeli government and US government in English? Log in to Reply . Mndwss June 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm Resisting arrest?: “I allowed my body to go limp and refused to walk on my own in a gesture of nonviolent defiance.” If you do not cooperate in your own strangulation and arrest, then you are resisting? Resistance is futile. (Seven of Nine). Log in to Reply . justicewillprevail June 10, 2011 at 3:21 pm Oh, such a feeble attempt, hoppy. Wrap yourself in some victimhood myths and lecture this brave guy on the rights of the thuggish police. Ha ha. But you are right, security is a real issue, especially for Palestinians constantly harassed and attacked, as well as those who support and defend them in the face of vicious and violent Israel goons who fear no retribution for their squalid racist actions. Log in to Reply . Citizen June 10, 2011 at 8:06 am Go Lucus. You are more inspiring and courageous than our entire US government. You represent the highest Jewish and American values! Log in to Reply . seafoid June 10, 2011 at 8:11 am Amos Oz covers the behaviour of the Cossacks in Poland/Russia as part of his family’s history in his autobiography ” a tale of love and darkness”. The Cossacks would sweep into the shtetl and unleash waves of brutality against the defenceless Jews. Now it’s Israel doing the same. Log in to Reply . eGuard June 10, 2011 at 8:23 am Curiously enough, the earlier video here yom yeru 2011 has received only 17k views since posting on June 1. This one, posted June 8, 18k. I suspect the YouTube counting. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:03 am A few years back someone tried to explain to me (I am basically technically challenged) how you tube and others break the hits up so the number count is not accurate Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 8:42 am What the hell did this young man do? Looks like nothing except tell the truth. What were the charges? Is he still in jail? What is going on with him now? The Israeli police were so friggin aggressive yanked him right out of that crowd. Let’s get him on Amy Goodmans Democracy Now. Contact Democracy Now. So easy. Let’s get this young man his cause and his violent arrest in the news some more. link to democracynow.org To think this is what Israeli police do in broad daylight to a young Jewish man protesting the occupation and telling the truth. Not hard to believe the reports about abuse, torture in their prisons. Brutal and angry officers. SPREAD THIS VIDEO AROUND. I just took it over to numerous other sites including (Washington Note, Race for Iran, Hardball) Go lateral, viral with this clip of abuse for speaking the truth. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 8:54 am Hope someone calls C Spans Washington Journal in the next few mornings and brings up this violent and looked like unnecessary arrest. Not like Washington Journal would have this young man on but getting what happened out there is so important. C spans Washington Journal is under attack by the organization Camera. link to camera.org They are trying to shut down the bit of factual information getting through via callers by claiming that callers are the same people Myron Kaplan at Camera defines all callers who bring up this critical issue with legitimate criticism as anti semitic, anti Israel and anti Jewish. You can see so clearly how the I lobby has shut down this debate and the facts for decades Keep calling Washington Journal and bringing up the facts, Mondoweiss, If Americans Knew and other sites that deal with this issue honestly. Washington Journal is the only MSM outlet where facts about this conflict can get through. Go for it. Call and bring this young mans arrest up. Log in to Reply . Shingo June 10, 2011 at 9:05 am The over reactions by the cops is so indicative of the over reaction the IDF have to provocation, even when it’s not provocation. This young man did nothign illegal, but hey, the cops had to defend themselves right and why should they use proportionate force? Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:09 am Arrest of Lucas link to livefromoccupiedpalestine.blogspot.com Sure do not see the Israeli police ripping any of these young people from the crowds for screaming “death to Arabs” “burn their villages” “slaughter Arabs” Lucas gets aggressively pushed, handled and then brutally arrested for saying “not in my name” Aye yi yi Log in to Reply . annie June 10, 2011 at 9:20 am bravo! an excellent way to start my day! thank you wonderful lucas! Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:23 am More on Lucas being arrested link to desertpeace.wordpress.com Poets for Palestine at Hampshire College link to whynotnews.org Can’t even pull up the clip on google by switching different variations of these wordsyou tube lucas Koerner arrest in Israel not in my name When I go to the you tube page and put in Lucas Koerner arrest not in my name. Nothing. Switched words. Nothing. Now as I said above I am technically challenged. But as Eli Pariser points out in the below clip, hope folks will go google this arrest and see what you pull up. How are they filtering information like this arrest? Just a while back watched a clip of Move On Eli Pariser describing internet “filter bubbles” And how information on the web can be blocked, filtered, controlled Eli Pariser “filter bubbles” link to youtube.com Log in to Reply . petersz June 10, 2011 at 11:23 am Just watch this video showing Netanyahu’s speech being mixed with Lucas Koerner’s arrest. I like it when Netenyahu says Israel is a real “democracy” with all the fawning Congressmen and then shows Lucas being grabbed and pinned to the ground by Zio police thugs for doing nothing more than peacefully protesting. Reminds you of the sort of incident that was only too typical of a certain European country in the 1930s which was by then very far from being a democracy! link to youtube.com Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:33 pm So the Israeli cop or agent in the blue shirt looks like the same officer who first makes an aggressive move on Lucas in both incidents. Is it the same man? Sure looks like it. Lucas non violent methods really pisses this Israeli cop off Log in to Reply . Walid June 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm About bubbles and how people are directed either towards or away from specific causes, keep in mind that Pariser of Move-On Org (Obama’s lead fundraiser org) and his Canadian partner Patel at the international affiliate, Avaaz, with a combined following of several million members are on the Advisory Council of J Street. Your man is an expert on bubbles. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm It is an interesting topic though. I find it interesting that I can not find the Lucas video at you tube. Can you go there and find it easily? Log in to Reply . uribs June 10, 2011 at 9:24 am Just wanted to say thank you, Lucas. As an Israeli who is very ashamed of what is going on here, we need you around. Take care! Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:52 am cool…so glad that he has some Israeli’s support. Can you let the Israeli police know what you think about his brutal arrest. Demonstrate your support there? Stay human Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:26 am Just wondering about this control and filtering of information on the web. Can not pull anything up at you tube when I put in “Lucas Koerner arrest in Israel” Please give this a shot and see what you pull up? Log in to Reply . Citizen June 10, 2011 at 11:56 am Kathleen, I got Lucus spliced in ironically with Bibi extolling the virtues of Israel’s democracy & the US congress giving standing ovations: link to youtube.com I just used the search words: youtube lucas koerner Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm wonder if it just went up only 67 hits Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm Just experimenting with some of the things that Eli Pariser stated on his “filter” claims..patterns, lack of access etc Ok Citizen when I google what you googled I get this one A compilation of Netanyahu and Koerner arrest link to youtube.com And this video of the arrest that has been removed YouTube – Another Young Jewish Hero meets Israeli-US Democracy Jun 10, 2011 … Lucas Koerner is a sophomore at Tufts University in Boston … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N0r1Fjt1Ng – Block all http://www.youtube.com results link to youtube.com Log in to Reply . Linda J June 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm Hi, Kathleen. On youtube, I used the search “American Jew arrested Jerusalem” and it came right up. Best, Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:36 pm thanks maybe I was using to many words Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm A fair amount of hits link to youtube.com But this one has been removed YouTube – Another Young Jewish Hero meets Israeli-US Democracy Jun 10, 2011 … Lucas Koerner is a sophomore at Tufts University in Boston … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N0r1Fjt1Ng – Block all http://www.youtube.com results Says this video has been removed link to youtube.com Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm YouTube – Another Young Jewish Hero meets Israeli-US Democracy Jun 10, 2011 … Lucas Koerner is a sophomore at Tufts University in Boston … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N0r1Fjt1Ng – Block all http://www.youtube.com results What does “block all http://www.youtube.com results” mean. Sounds like you tube has shut the main clip of Lucas Koehner’s arrest down Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:55 pm When I google what you googled I get this page, Mondoweiss page. link to liveleak.com That agent in the “blue shirt” sure looks like he was sent into antagonize and try to provoke trouble. Just wondering why that one you tube clip was taken down? YouTube – Another Young Jewish Hero meets Israeli-US Democracy Jun 10, 2011 … Lucas Koerner is a sophomore at Tufts University in Boston … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N0r1Fjt1Ng – Block all http://www.youtube.com results link to youtube.com Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 9:31 am “I stepped back up on the pylon. Moments later, an Israeli police officer ran up, seized me, and dragged me to the other side of the street. He then punched me in the face, put me in a choke hold, and with four other officers, slammed me to the ground. I was eventually handcuffed and carried to the car; I allowed my body to go limp and refused to walk on my own in a gesture of nonviolent defiance. Throughout the whole affair, the only thing audible coming from the policemen was a constant stream of curses words, “motherfucker”, “piece of shit”, etc., which was to me a ringing confirmation of how infuriated and threatened they were by a 19-year old wearing a kippah and a keffiyeh standing with the Palestinians. To be continued in the next post: “In Israeli Jail”” Really want to hear what is happening to Lucas. What a brave and committed young man. Get this story everywhere you can. To think the Israeli youth can shout “kill the Arabs” “burn their villages” “slaughter the Arabs” And then they brutally arrest a young Jewish man for peaceful non violent protesting. Log in to Reply . James North June 10, 2011 at 9:41 am Richard Witty said, ‘This brave young man’s actions and testimony are my worst nightmare. If the Israeli police beat a young, kippah-wearing Jewish man in broad daylight in front of the cameras, what did they do in Gaza, at night, after they refused entry to the press? ‘My pious exhortations to “make the better argument” fall a little flat here. That’s exactly what he was trying to do before they assaulted him. ‘You won’t see me trying to threadjack this discussion! I’ll hide elsewhere on the site until this blows over.’ Log in to Reply . Chaos4700 June 10, 2011 at 9:47 am Bingo! I suppose if we’re lucky, he’ll show on this thread long enough to whine about how you’re treating ME! ME! ME! and swoon decorously about what a martyr he is. He, of course, will never acknowledge that this young in this article even exists, because then Witty would have to confront the fact that he DOES exist and, being the embodiment of everything Witty’s straw man arguments bemoan that everyone in the conflict should be, this man speaks out against everything Witty stands for. In other words, this man is Gandhi and Witty is a British imperialist. Log in to Reply . eljay June 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm >> James North June 10, 2011 at 9:41 am Yup. Log in to Reply . Taxi June 10, 2011 at 10:03 am “Palestinians, fascinated with my kippah, approached me and exclaimed, “I love you”.” Me too. I love you. You are amazing! The jews WILL have a decent future despite the crimes of israel and zionism – exactly because of young American jews like you dear Lucus. Wow you are beautiful and brave and brilliant! May you go forth in peace and multiply. Log in to Reply . jonah June 10, 2011 at 10:27 am This young American man is very ingenuous and blinded by his own beliefs, as actually young (and not only young) leftist activists usually are. He should try to understand the world, namely the Middle East world, before loudly shouting his trite slogans (“apartheit”, “right of retourn” and so on). He should maybe try to go yelling for freedom and human rights in Jisr ash-Shughur or any other Syrian city and hope to get out alive from his humanitarian journey. But of course this will never happen: Israel is and remains the ideal favourite travel destination of these Western human right activists desiderous of a a bit action against the cruel “Zionist oppressor”, without taking too much risk. Good for a his own blog and the delighted approval of like-minded fellows. Log in to Reply . Bumblebye June 10, 2011 at 10:54 am Jonah said: “There are worse offenders in the world than Israel, go fix them first before you dare turn your attention to Israel, despite it commiting its crimes in your name and with your parents tax dollars.” Log in to Reply . Taxi June 10, 2011 at 11:22 am Actually in Syria, Lucas will be allowed to say anything he wants about the ‘khkhkhite ov khiturn’ and scream his lungs out about ‘abartide’ without being arrested for it. But he will indeed get the same brutal treatment form the syrian Gabas (Brit slang for police) if he indeed critiqued the government in public. So like the only difference between the thuggish israeli and syrian police, is the color and design of their uniforms. Both are hated for their violence and torture and murder of peaceful protesters. You can smugly look down on the age of the protestor (agism?) all you like, you can call him a leftie or a rightie or an unpsidedownie all you like: it won’t stop him – clearly your opinion is inconsequential. Because even a five year old can tell that all you’re doing is attacking the messenger instead of responding in good faith to THE message. And the message is?…….. GAME OVER MISTER OCCUPIER! Now start packing your settler bags and start looking for alternative suitable accommodation by this Christmas. Log in to Reply . Woody Tanaka June 10, 2011 at 11:30 am “This young American man is very ingenuous and blinded by his own beliefs, as actually young (and not only young) leftist activists usually are.” Yeah, a belief in the common humanity and rights of all, including Palestinians. I know it’s a strange concept to the Zionists, but imagine a bit. It’s pretty easy once you put down your bigotry. “He should try to understand the world, namely the Middle East world, before loudly shouting his trite slogans (“apartheit”, “right of retourn” and so on)” No, he does understand the world, that’s why he shouts those things. “He should maybe try to go yelling for freedom and human rights in Jisr ash-Shughur or any other Syrian city and hope to get out alive from his humanitarian journey.” Do the fascists in Syria claim to be the homeland for Lucas? No. But the fascists in Israel do. Sounds like the perfect reasons to fight the fascists in Israel and leave the fight in Syria to the Syrians. “But of course this will never happen: Israel is and remains the ideal favourite travel destination of these Western human right activists desiderous of a a bit action against the cruel “Zionist oppressor”, without taking too much risk.” Tell Rachel Corrie or Furkan Doğan about the lack of risk. Oh, that’s right. You can’t. They were murdered in cold blood by the Judeo-fascists… “Good for a his own blog and the delighted approval of like-minded fellows.” Good for the decent people in the world. Which, of course, eliminates 95% of all Zionists… Log in to Reply . Theo June 10, 2011 at 11:37 am I am not young and not what you may call a leftist, however I admire the courage of that young jew who has the guts to take the side of the weaker. The best he could do is to take a few likeminded friends and do the same in the front of the WH in Washington. The scene most likely will repeat itself, several burly policemen will jump him as we have a free country only on paper. Log in to Reply . James June 10, 2011 at 11:58 am “blinded by his own beliefs”……….geez, where have we been seeing this on a nationalist level recently????????????? Log in to Reply . eljay June 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm >> He should maybe try to go yelling for freedom and human rights in Jisr ash-Shughur or any other Syrian city and hope to get out alive from his humanitarian journey. But of course this will never happen: Israel is and remains the ideal favourite travel destination of these Western human right activists desiderous of a a bit action against the cruel “Zionist oppressor”, without taking too much risk. So, to sum up: We’re not as good as the best but, hey, at least we’re not as bad as the worst! That sure is something to be proud of, especially in the “only democracy in the Middle East”, supremacist “Jewish state” of Israel. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 10:28 am Folks in 4o minutes the international round up will be live on the Diane Rehm show. Calling, emailing, tweeting a comment about the above story or any other recent story about the I/P conflict can be effective when millions hear this information. I have been able to get through more than my share over the last ten years about the I/P conflict and many other issues. My strategy with screeners (Dorie at the Rehm show is fair and balanced, of course the show loves FIRST TIME CALLERS)always be polite. Get a piece of information through (Lucas Koerner being arrested while young Israeli supporters can scream violent statements about Arabs and no arrest etc) You could also mention MONDOWEISS…IF AMERICAN KNEW ETC and then ask the guest a question about the issue. With a screener make it short, clear and accurate. So again in 30 minutes you can call 1-800- 433-8850 or email drshow@wamu.org. I am not a tweeter but go right ahead. Lets get Lucas arrest on the Rehm show..make the issue broader than just his arrest. You can also put up comments at the Rehm site link to thedianerehmshow.org Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 10:30 am of course when you are calling just keep pushing redial. Get several phones going if you really want on. Sometimes you end up on a busy stagnant line. Redial the numbers directly. Use the national news that is open to get relevant, accurate information through. Give it a try. Good luck Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 11:02 am Diane just mentioned, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Libya. Not a mention about every expanding illegal settlements. Challenge them. Give a call, email, twitter, facebook. Get it out to millions of people. Mention Mondoweiss link to thedianerehmshow.org drshow@wamu.org ….1-800-433-8850 Ok folks International Round up. Get the word out. Use the airwaves that are open. Give it a shot. Mention Mondoweiss link to thedianerehmshow.org My comment over at the comment section at the Rehm show website During a recent a march in support of Israel Israeli youth screamed violent and ruthless statements about Arabs. Such as “kill the Arabs” “burn their villages” “slaughter Arabs” and Israeli soldiers and police officers did nothing to interrupt these violent statements White Shirts in Jerusalem cry ‘Butcher the Arabs’ by Phil Weiss and Annie on June 3, 2011 link to mondoweiss.net During those same protest a young American Jewish man Lucas Koerner was peacefully protesting Israel’s occupation. He was aggressively and brutally arrested by Israeli police for shouting “not in my name” A young American Jew describes being arrested for standing in opposition to the Jerusalem Day parade link to mondoweiss.net Can you please have your guest discuss these brutal and violent arrest that Palestinians have had to deal with for decades for peaceful protesting against the Israeli occupation. Hope Diane and team are brave enough to have Lucas Koerner on your program. Come on Rehm team open your eyes and your air waves. Go to those links watch for your selves Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 11:07 am oops sorry about “epitaphs” was thinking about a friend who passed. Statements Log in to Reply . hophmi June 10, 2011 at 1:56 pm Ever hear what they shout at Arab marches? Oh, I forgot, it’s not your concern. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:15 pm link please. Proof. Have heard Jews at the Aipac conference and Palestinian Solidarity gatherings scream profane and violent words and statements towards Palestinian and others. Have never ever heard any Arabs scream horrific things like. “kill Jews” or “burn their illegal settlement homes” or “slaughter Jews” Can you provide equivalent proof or links verifying what you are claiming? Log in to Reply . Woody Tanaka June 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm This is what I heard during the last Arab march: “Give us our rights” “End the occupation” “Stop stealing our land and water” “About the hummus… you’re welcome.” “Stop murdering our children with white phosphorus” Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm And Hophmi keeps repeating claims and seldom backs them up. So easy to do if it is true Log in to Reply . zafarz June 10, 2011 at 11:13 am This is an outrage no American citizen should tolerate. Also watch here link to bit.ly Netanyahu celebrating “Real Democracy” while US Congress Cheerleads endlessly. Log in to Reply . Chu June 10, 2011 at 11:32 am Nice work to Lucas. Another first hand look at Israeli democracy. Makes one proud. The elements of fascism always bubble to the surface when their communist enterprise is called into question. Plundering the Arab land by force, they had to rely on fascism to survive, although it’s seems more like a communist-religious state behind the fascism. Someone at the State Department needs to call this nation out. Sure they’ll call it the new mccarthyism, but it’s better to cut the appendages that bind us to this corrupt post-colonial state. The US has enough corruption to deal with, besides supporting a quasi-fascist-commie regime whose leader lectures our president in his own office. We look like suckers in the long run. This sitting president needs to make a prime-time evening speech to the people of the US if he’s reelected, to lay down some news ground rules. He’s got some tools in his chest- The USS Liberty- Pollard- Israeli Racism. take your pick and there’s certainly more dirt to expose to the masses. Log in to Reply . Seham June 10, 2011 at 11:41 am I love the Palestinians chanting “Allahu Ahkbar” when Lucas was arrested, they were praying for him. :) Log in to Reply . iamuglow June 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm Much Respect to you Lucas. Much, much respect. I hope this video finds a wide audience. A change is going to come. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm Ok just got the question I wanted to ask about in about the most recent NIE report onIran on the Diane Rehm international round up and mentioned Mondoweiss as the site to go to on the I/P conflict. All towards the end of the program. Second time I have gotten a plug in for you guys on the Rehm show. Did not have time to bring up how the whole show had gone an hour without even getting near the I/P issue. Hope this brings even more readers to the site In the last 10 minutes of the show link to thedianerehmshow.org Log in to Reply . American June 10, 2011 at 2:35 pm Good work kathleen! You are relentless….I love it. Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm Yep as so many human rights activist have been and continue to be. A pleasure plugging Mondoweiss. Of course they cut me off right before I was getting in the Lucas arrest and how the Rehm show had just spent close to an hour without even whispering about the I/P conflict Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm Have literally gotten on many of these shows hundreds of times over the last 10 years. Great way to get info out and ask the questions that many MSM host will not. Even challenge the host on their unwillingness to challenge. That is why I try to encourage others to get on the air waves that you can access. Washington Journal being one of them. They are being hammered by Camera (cspan watch) for allowing callers to state facts. Log in to Reply . Bill in Maryland June 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm Just heard your question, diss of AIPAC, plug for Mondoweiss, and mention of the illegal settlements on today’s Diane Rehm show here starting at minute 48:08. Great work Kathleen, you inspire! Log in to Reply . Lydda Four Eight June 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm where’s my love Adam, I emailed you that video? here’s another good video of Lucas remixed with Netanyahoo’s speech. good stuff, although i wish there was a little more oomph like some repeated words to drive the message home and music. zanga zanga style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEzp3LIS0l0&feature=player_embedded there’s another video with Rae Abileah, listen to what Netanyahoo says about Tripoli at the end. Wow. So democracy is good enough for Tripoli but not good enough for Palestinians? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heyKY_Y2NhU&feature=related Log in to Reply . Kathleen June 10, 2011 at 2:12 pm Always important to acknowledge where things come from. Huge lesson in life even the small things. A hat tip, a thank you. Thank you Log in to Reply . Jim Haygood June 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm From this editorial posted in a student newspaper, I gather that Lucas Koerner is a student at Tufts University: link to tuftsdaily.com It doesn’t say where he’s from. But someone who knows where Koerner lives should contact his U.S. Representative and Senators, and ask them both to intervene (by demanding that the U.S. ambassador offer consular visitation and protection), and to make a statement concerning Koerner’s harsh treatment by the ‘middle east’s only democracy.’ The video of Koerner’s summary arrest is an effective antidote to the billowing fantasies spun by Netanyahu about Israel being an advanced, modern and tolerant state. A video is worth 10,000 words. And an unorthodox kippah is worth a free escort to jail, evidently. By the way, when will Abe Foxman be issuing his statement condemning the absence of ‘tolerance’ on display in the video? Just asking! --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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