The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> am confused....

am confused....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Monday, May 30 2016, 19:47:08 (UTC)
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...Chris Hedges and Galloway are brilliant at dissecting American foreign policy, imperialist wars, but both of them are deeply religious....Hitchens and Harris and Dawkins are brilliant at dissecting religious beliefs yet all three of them have a faith-based belief in military power and state power....is there no one who sees through both positions?

...Yes, it's true, Islam is a silly religion...but these people are presenting it as a DANGEROUS and VIOLENT religion, which it is not, no matter how you measure violence-in-religion Christianity is the most violent religion ever, certainly in the modern era Christianity has brought the world more murders and destruction than Islam.

Algerian pirates notwithstanding.

...Dawkins, like Harris and Hitchens claim they all saw the "danger" in Islam when 9/11 occurred. But 9/11 had very little to do with Islam, except its desire to get Christian military bases off their lands....and certainly the violence since then has had even less to do with Islam than with reaction and retaliation against the ACTIONS of the United States and other Christian nations...and yet these guys still talk as if Islam decided, all on its own, to declare war on the West...as if Muhammad made them do it when it was Bush, most recently, who made them do it.

The discussion, even by these intellectuals, is muddled and skewed...no one speaks about the right to revenge, the feeling that if you do this to me, I can do it to you...instead they speak of the Islamic LAW which makes Muslims want to attack Christians.....but the historic record is clear, Islam has done nothing to the West in the last 200 years EXCEPT after Palestine was stolen and Iraq attacked..only then did Muslims begin to fight...any scientist, as the three claim they are, would see that...would look at the FACTS and the historical record and not at supernatural causes to explain natural occurring phenomenon like REVENGE.

After 9/11 all sorts of Americans were saying we should kill ALL Muslims...and we even attacked the wrong country but so strong was our desire for revenge that we didn't care, we wanted to get back at any Muslims, just for revenge.

A scientist would recognize that after 10,000 years humans are pretty much the same in their basic desires...hence if WE wanted indiscriminate revenge for 9/11, so too did Muslims for crimes committed against them, and this was perfectly natural and needed no supernatural explanation like "God made them do it".

But to see this clearly would require we take responsibility for our actions and no Empire can afford to do that...it will ALWAYS be "THEY made us do it".

As men have always said "SHE tempted me to rape her".



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