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Let's say I move to Mexico now and I purchase a home on some land there. I raise a family there and begin to speak Spanish and slowly adapt to the culture. Let's also say I have children who are born there now and they too keep producing children. After a few generations, some of my descendants are living on this property that I settled. All of the sudden some archeologists come along and make some ancient discoveries near or around my area and credit these findings as belonging to my descendants. Does that mean my descendants were the actual people whom these things really belonged to when I was a foreigner in the land and I settled there generations earlier? Since they speak Spanish now and are born and raised in Mexico, does that make them ethnic Aztecs or rightful owners of the findings? I know our brother Pancho has made this point many times before and some just don't get it.

If I move to Arizona and later have children who are born there or later generations of my descendants do not become Navaho. The same applies to our nationalists. What is their evidence that they are truly direct descendants of the ancient Assyrians and not the Arameans, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Amorites, etc? Why do they have to be the direct descendants of the ancient Assyrians and can not be of any other peoples? What is their proof? Is it language? the answer is, no, because they speak a language that is foreign and was at the same time the lingua franca of the entire region at one point. The ancient Assyrians only adopted the Aramean language but it was not their native language. Furthermorem, the Assyrians were not the only people who spoke or adopted Aramaic but it was the language of many people. The Aramean language and culture had an influence on many people.

If the proof is location, this is weak because people move and relocate. For all we know these Nestorians and Chaldeans are the offspring of different people who came and settleds in Bet Nahrain. Religion can also not be used because the ancients were not Christian and there is no report or evidence of "Assyrians" embracing Christianity. By the time Christianty came around, there was no such thing as an Assyrian identity anyways. The Brits made a discovery and they picked the Christians who were living nearest to these findings and made them the descendants of the ancients. It is only logic they would do so because the Brits wouldn't want Muslims to be called descendants of the ancient Assyrians so why not give this to the Nestorians who will later be used as a hoax and a cover up to do western crimes? The same was done in Egypt how the Copts are considered the descendants of Pharaoh when in reality they are foreigners to Egypt. Egypt was ruled and occupied by many peoples over the centuries before Christianity and even during the Christian era. The Copts are foreigners too and they just happened to be Christian and the archeologists want to give the credit to the Christians of the land.

It is impossible for only one set of people to be direct descendants of someone while others are not. There is no evidence and Fred Aprim would not be an "Assyrian" today if his Christian cousins(Brits)gave his grandfather this name. The archeolgical findinf prove nothing, Aramaic language proves nothing and no matter how many books Fred Aprim or John Booko gets printed about Assyria it all means nothing. Today's Assyrians are nothing more than a Christian denomination. One can not be Muslim and "Assyrian" today because it is only a Christian denomination and nothing more. It's like saying "Catholic Muslim" which does not work. The same thing is about today's Assyrian and how it is simply a religious denomination and title. It is no different from modern Chaldean usage and how it only applies to Roman Catholics, Jacobite how it applies to a certain denomination, and Assyrian of today is no different. They think to fool people by getting a couple of Chaldeans and Jacobites to call themselves "Aturaye" but they are only playing with themselves.

I know a popular Iraqi Muslim scholar who is a frequent visitor at the many mosques in Atlanta and all over the world. He has cd's, dvd's etc. He is born in Mosul Iraq and his first name is Muhammad while he is called Muhammad Al Nenowy. This guy is proud of the ancient Assyrians and regards himself as Bet Nahrainy. Now in what way can a Fred Aprim prove that this guy is not really Assyrian while all the Christians are? Keep in mind that this brother does not claim no "direct descent" bull crap nor does he make silly demands because he is too educated and wise for that but he loves the ancients just as all Iraqis do. I know another Iraqi Muslim professor at Georgia Tech university who knows the Mesopotamian history very well, he was telling the American students about the ancients and how they have left overs like the ancient pyramids, etc. This guy too is proud of his ancestry and it is not a secret nor is he shy. But the truth behind this whole "Assyrian" bull crap is religion and bigotry.

They are fanatic Christians who hope to steal away a piece of land as our brother Pancho stated earlier. Why else does one have to be of a certain religion? Why is Pancho not a direct descendant of the ancients or what makes him less than a pussy like Fred Aprim or a chicken shit like Ken Joseph? It is just because he is not a Christian and of course he exposes these jokers. They aren't fooling anyone and even the major history networks, magazines, etc have not even bothered to contact them because it is a hoax. I have read many books by historians of ancient Assyria and Babylonia and the way they write is as if they do not believe the ancients are around anymore. I mean for God's sake we have direct descendants of Ashur Banipal and Sencharib living in suburbs of Chicago, Detroit, Modesto, Turlock and Sydeny yet no one is interested. One would think they be drooling over this but then again, the world is all "jealous" and "afraid" of them. And We are all Jew loving, Nigger loving, Muslim loving agents of the CIA. I didn't know the CIA or the mosat was so worried about gamblers, custodians, taxi drivers and with a few engineers who have become self proclaimed historians, activists, freedom fighters and chiefs of Assyria.

Does this really make them proud and give them an erection or do they know they are full of it?

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