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...don't understand...

Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, December 17 2014, 15:08:10 (UTC)
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...how anyone claiming to value reason above all...and evidence...and logic...and even science, can make the statement that Christianity is the more benign religion and we have to fear Islam, I don't know....on what evidence? On track record? On actual violence perpetrated against innocent people around the world for, let's just say, the last 300 years? On number of wars and attacks against people around the world? On weapons systems and poisons made and sold around the world?

Where is the evidence of Muslim violence on anywhere near a scale to Christian violence? We've asked Bet-Solomon for years and he's produced nothing...while all the time the record of Christian violence is well chronicled in history books in thousands of libraries and schools...as well as in recent memory,like the Holocaust...remember? While at the same time those same history books have next to nothing to report on the "violence of Islam" which is driving people like Hitchens and Dawkins and Harris to distraction. Where, besides in the record of feeble and "improvised" actions against us for attacking THEM, do they get their evidence...these scientists and great thinkers? Where is the evidence for THEIR claims?

All Hitchens and Harris do is refer us to the Quran itself or the Hadith...ok, but these are the same guys who know all about the viciousness in the bible....so what? If 9/11 is outrageous and the loss of 3000 lives worthy of blind revenge, what do you say to the starvation to death of 700,000 Iraqi children under the age of five? It isn't what people BELIEVE, as even they tell us that most likely most people don't believe the nonsense in either holy book, what counts is what people DO, and Muslims have done very little violence compared to what's been done to them and what we have done to them and to other Christians and to the world.

Why are these people so unnerved when there are reasonable and logical mounds of evidence that it is NOT religion but the actions of Christian nations against Muslim peoples and countries, who are cursed with the petroleum that runs in the veins of the West, which has caused this reaction? Is there NO other "reasonable" explanation for the attacks against the Christian West than just religious ones? None?

Scientists look out over the landscape of the MidEast and ONLY see Islam and it's "violence"? They don't see years of meddling...of manipulation...of theft...of propping up dictators and finally of illegal and immoral violence and wars and depleted uranium and starving children to death??? You mean NONE of that matters or can have ANY bearing on why Muslims might want revenge? As we wanted it for 9/11 and got it too, even against countries and people who had nothing to do with that event and continued on our merry way?

There are ways to test this hypothesis that something besides religion is behind the attacks on us by Muslim people. It's simple...just ask yourself if Palestinians would have been ok with the theft of their land by anyone NOT Jewish? Of course not...is it so hard to imagine that Palestinians would have hated France if it had made an Israel...or Martians? What has Islam OR Judaism to do with it...except in the case of the Jews who use their holy book as a title deed.

...Muslims have plenty of better reasons to hate what Israelis have done than Muhammad or the Quran. They have REAL reasons, the Jews have that silly holy book Hitchens makes such fun of. Jews are ones who say, in essence, "Our God told us this was to be done". Muslims don't respond with, "Well, ours told us to resist". No god had to say so, all humans would resist such a thing and Muslims resist for perfectly understandable HUMAN reasons...nothing to do with a Hadith.

Only one side is using god to justify their murders...those who resist don;t need god as their justification...you mean they aren't even allowed to "call" on their god for moral support, in something they, and everyone else, would do ANYWAY, god or no god?

THAT is their crime...THAT is what makes then so dangerous and fearful to Hitchens and the rest...that they PRAY when going to do battle?

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