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=> gimme war

gimme war
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Sunday, July 17 2011, 17:47:54 (UTC)
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...I'm sorry...when someone writes that "America expected swift victory in Iraq (or Korea or Vietnam or now Libya) he loses me. I think to myself, "what, in any way, indicates that the United States wanted or would benefit by a "swift victory"? What?

...I see rather that the wealthy of America benefit by the LACK of victory, in its usual sense. We're still thinking of victory as one side defeats the armies of the other....but that's no longer the case...for one thing no one wants to, or can, seize and hold another country, and no one has waged a war of conquest against America, not even Japan...it's a big NO-NO where the UN is concerned and besides no one really wants that headache...the victory, the benefit in wars is the WAGING of them....because they cost billions of dollars and it's the surest way to the greatest example of corporate welfare there is, because for one thing it can be unending, or for as long as they can get away with it, and because it is so easy to make it noble-sounding and even a benefit because it will keep us "safe".

...I will never believe that the way the United States fought in Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan and even Korea had anything to do with wanting "victory" but everything to do with wanting cash, a "market"....business.

...I don't care how astute someone sounds, with all his flow charts and statistics and tiresome lists of "mistakes made", to me the real facts as are plain and simple as they can be...:modern warfare is big business, in some ways the biggest and bestest business ever....even better than religion...and if a pundit doesn't see that all the rest of his views are suspect.

..I always go back to Eisenhower's warning....he didn't warn us to beware communism, or brown people, or rice farmers or any enemies besides those within, those who learned the trick of endless profits by fear-mongering and war-mongering.....he knew what he was talking about.

...FDRs New Deal and all his government spending did NOT end the Depression...there was a significant uptick in the economy but then he tried to cut spending and that sent the country into a dive again...it was only with WW II, what some call the greatest Public Works Project of all time, that unemployment practically ended and prosperity came about....because, with Japan's attack and Hitler declaring war too, there was no question of NOT spending...as much money as was needed was printed up and it went into the pockets of all the usual fat cats and whole host of new ones and they NEVER forgot that lesson...and sure enough, they went to war in Korea a few years later and then in Vietnam a few years after that and now Iraq and the rest and their intention was NEVER to "win" unless it meant to win the money in our Treasury.

...a "swift victory" would be a defeat to these people...what they want is a long protracted war against a weaker people, of course, during which time the Treasury is theirs for the taking...but it has to last a LONG TIME....or where's the profit? The side-effect, greatly desired, is that in the process of waging such wars we are creating "customers" or rather "markets" as whole generations of traumatized and innocent civilians swear revenge.



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