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guidelines for new articles for Wkipedia

Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Saturday, February 18 2012, 22:25:05 (UTC)
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Gather sources to the information for your article. To be worth including in the encyclopedia a subject must be sufficiently notable and that notability must be verifiable through references to reliable sources.

...key words: reliable sources.

These sources should be reliable; that is, they should be sources that exercise some form of editorial control. Print sources (and web-based versions of those sources) tend to be the most reliable, though many web-only sources are also reliable. Some examples include (but are not limited to): books published by major publishing houses, newspapers, magazines, peer-reviewed scholarly journals, websites of any of the above, and other websites that meet the same basic requirements as any print-based source.

...Dr Joseph's publisher is Brill, out of Leiden, the Netherlands, who have been publishing scholarly works for over THREE HUNDRED YEARS!

In general, sources with NO editorial control are not generally reliable. These include (but are also not limited to): books published by vanity presses,

...that takes care of Aprim and Rosie-Malek and a few others.

self-published zines, blogs, web forums, usenet discussions, BBSes, fan sites, and the like. Basically, if anyone at all can post information without anyone else checking that information, it is probably not reliable.

...that is a perfect description of 99% of assyrian "sources"...anyone can join...anyone can read a book or two, lifting out what suits their purposes and even trimming and rearranging...all of it done as-you-please with no competant review, if any....besides cousins and girlfriends. This should alo nix most Christian writings since these people believe in tooth fairies and never bother verifying is heaven exists or not...they are propagandists, not scholars.

To put it simply, if there are reliable sources with enough information to write about a subject, then that subject is notable and those sources can verify the information in the Wikipedia article. If you cannot find reliable sources (such as newspapers, journals, or books) that provide information for an article, then the subject is not notable or verifiable and almost certainly will be deleted. So your first job is to find references.

...amen to that. REFERENCES is the key word...and since Dr Joseph is the ONLY one among these people, Assyriologists included, who has actually made a professional career, as a college professor, on this very theme, he has the references and the standing and the recognition which none of the rest of them have.

Once you have references for your article, you can learn to place the references into the article by reading Wikipedia:Citing sources. But do not worry too much about formatting them properly. It would be great if you do that, but the main thing is to get references into the article even if they are not well formatted.

...so, as soon as I get into my storage space and get out my copy of Dr Joseph's book I will start on a new article which should, with any luck, take the place of the highly biased and non-scholarly article there now. To our faces they can Dr Joseph a traitor a sell-out an enemy a CIA agent sent to disrupt assyrian unity...but to the WHITE MAN they dare not say any of this...to the MAN they're going to have to show Dr Joseph's RESEARCH and conclusions are wrong...which is what we asked them to do on our thingie, but all they would do is say again that they were too bosy and next curse us and Dr Joseph...so for the first time they're going to have to actually CONFRONT Dr Joseph, and in front of WHITE people.....and they don't know how to do it, having never bothered before...all of a sudden they're up against, not a cousin or a khon, but a professional historian whose field of expertise this is...he is the ONLY one among them who is NOT an amateur!!!

And the administration at Wikipedia will know how to appreciate that...and they'll also learn, very quickly and much to their dismay, what kind of puffballs they've allowed to write "assyrian" history.

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guidelines for new articles for Wkipedia pancho - Saturday, February 18 2012, 22:25:05 (UTC)
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