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my days of ignorance

Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Friday, March 13 2009, 8:39:41 (CET) from 74.129.168.90 - 74-129-168-90.dhcp.insightbb.com Commercial - Windows Codename Longhorn - Internet Explorer Website: Website title:

This is the time period where I was one of these nationalists and I still kick myself in the knee for ever being sucken into it, but then I keep in mind that I didn't know any better. That is why it is my ignorance and before reality hit me. Of course I sometimes miss that feeling of being called "umtanaya" and a "true Assyrian". I miss debating and having the entire web site on my side(which was in reality of no good because they were as silly as me or if not worse)but I took great pride in what I used to do. The first time reality hit me was during a private talk online between me and a Suryani brother. This brother seemed very good hearted but he wouldn't call himself "Assyrian" and I wanted to convince him that he was truly Assyrian and not Aramean, the name of his church was "Assyrian Orthodox" instead of "Syria" but it didn't work. After a few chats with him, I did some research on this guy or at least I tried and I began asking questions about him but of course from the wrong source. I was being told the same old absurd stuff that the same people say about me today behind my back. The same slanders, lies and myths that was spread about the "Assyrian" girl who embraced Islam in a time where I would have killed her had she done so in my presence. So the lie they had told me about the Suryoyo brother was that he was once calling himself a "proud Assyrian" but because certain heroes didn't take him serious so he got jealous and pissed, therefore, stopped calling himself "Assyrian". At the same time they were saying that he was deeply in love with an "Assyrian" girl but she called him "ugly" and he was so "heartbroken" that he started denying being "Assyrian". Does this kind of stuff sound familar? Of course it does because this is the same stuff I was told about our brother Farid Parhad whom I later discovered goes by this name, Pancho. The bottom line is that these people are silly with their rumors and myths but at the same time they are worthless in my opinion. Anyways, one day I decided to challenge that Suryoyo brother to a debate online in front of the whole klan and I was trying to convince him that he were Assyrian. So he agreed after a short while but he had respect for me and did not want to embarrass me. When he said that, I lost my "cool" like a "good Christian" does but, hey it's not my fault since "we Middle Easterns are short tempred" as we used to say in those days and some still say so. So we debated and he asked me for my "proof" that we are really "Assyrian". I was lost for second and was like "huh, proof? what you mean proof? are you nuts?" But he was dead serious. He asked me what my proof was that he being from somewhere in Syria was a "direct descendant of the ancient Assyrians". So this confused me and I tried to tell him "brother, this is the devil playing with you, get real because we are all one people" and his response was "we are all confused about who we are. I lost my "cool" for a second time and said "now you look here, just because you're confused or brainwashed, does not mean I am because I know who I am". He laughed at me of course just I would have burried myself that day and he said "it was the British who called your grandfather Assyrian and you just happened to get this name from your parents and now you are Assyrian". He further said "a 100 years ago we wouldn't have been having this debate because there were no Assyrians". I was pissed for a third time and said "how the hell could the Brits made us Assyrians? did they teach us our language too?" and he asked "what Language?" I said "Assyrian?" and he laughed more and said that I am less as he originally thought of me because my arguements are weak. Just because I was a Nazi and insisted on calling myself and my language "Assyrian" does not mean it is and he was 100% correct because it is not "Assyrian" at all. No such thing and I speak a language that was not even the language of the people I claim as my "ancestors". At this point, I was wondering when the other "heroes" would step in and help out a little but they had "no time to waste" because he was "brainwashed" and soon to be "banned" from there. This was my first wake up call but there was more. Sometime after that I was engaged in a friendly dialogue with a "proud 100% Assyrian". When I say "Assyrian" this guy was not going to settle on unity unless it was under "Assyrian" and nothing less. To him there were no Chaldeans, Arameans, etc but they were all "100% Assyrian". But he kept insisting that they "Chaldeans/Suryoye" have Arab and Kurdish ".... in their ass so they won't call themselves Assyrians". This was a good friend of mine and the best thing came out of him or else who knows if I would have ever looked further into it. He was yapping his mouth non stop nd telling me how "proud I must be since he can see "Ashur Banipal in me when he looks at me". Of course this made my testicles huge and I thought I was untouchable. So he ended up taking his own pants off by telling me "you see akhoni, our people were not calling themselves Aturaye until very recently". I was like huh what you saying. He said that we were calling outselves "suraye" which was a filthy name given to us by foreigners so we could never be "Assyrian" and he had nasty things to say about the nick name "Mesopotamia" which was given to us by "swine eating Greeks who were jealous of us". I asked him why he didn't acceopt the name Assyrian and he said clearly that he is "Aturaya" and not "suraya" because to him it was the same as my father told me and it only means in reality "Christian". No wonder my friend right here in ATL and his entire family use "suraye" when speaking of Christians period. So this ass admitted that it wasn't until about a 100 years ago that we woke up and realized that were not suraye but "Aturaye". Well this was enough for me. I ended up researching at this point and came to realize how weak my claims and pride really was. It was nothing more than a hoax passed down on the rest. It just happened that we "discovered" ourself around the time the brits decided to bend over some of our ancestors and we became "Assyrian". They admit that the "Chaldean" name is not real today and they even admit that the British gave the "Assyrian" name to us but they insist that ours is real case and the Chaldeans is not but in reality both are hoax except that Chaldeans are not as silly as our asses. They claim that the Brits would not give us a name thats not ours and I say why the hell not when you insist the Chaldeans received such thing and you even admit that were not calling ourself Assyrian but rather "suraye". So now they are desperate and try to tell us that the "suraye" is "aturaye" but we just dropped the letter. Or they insist that they were really Assyrians and the Brits did the right thing. My arguement is that this is weak and a hoax. We don't have any better prove than the Chaldeans do and all we really are is a group of Nestorians/Catholics who were given names by westerners and we have been going by them. There is no evidence to say that Fred Aprim is a direct descendant of Ashur Banipal and if such were really his descendants, I really feel sorry for the ancients to have such as their offsprings. They are nothing more than bigoted Christians of the Middle East. They mainly come from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Turkey and a few later also moved to Lebanon. They were calling themselves "Suraye" they were always known as "Masihyun" and had no problem being just that. The British came and decided to use them and why not give all the ancient ethnic names to the Christians of Iraq, Syrian, Egypt, Lebanon, etc? Good idea and these "born again" shits have even pamplets printed about their silly "anti Christ" being an "Assyrian". I wonder if these people get an erection by what their pastors and prostitute screwing teleevangelists say? Do they even take themselves serious or do they know they are just as full of shit as their silly Roman, white man pig eating religion is which was made to enslave humans and make the colored a slave to the whitey. Make god into a man, make him white and booya, here we got it. Now their god looks like them is an asshole like them and others have to look up to them and to their bullshit pagan man god. Oh yeah and why not give him a unique/western name since "eshu" or "Yeshuah" sounds to foreign and Hebrew, let's give it a more acceptable name, how about "Jesus". Oh gee, I didn't know there was such a name in Hebrew, I didn't even know Hebrew had the letter "J" but then again, it's a white man thing. No wonder they slander Islam so much with what they are guilty of. They forced people into their faith and did this to my own ancestors. Hardly anyone in the first 3 centuries after "Jesus" was interested in this religion. Until the 4th century, CE, it was a small and insignificant religion in the Roman empire. Divided withing numerous hostile sects, it wasn't until the 4th century under Constantine that things began to change and things got better for it afterwards. So early on hardly anyone was interested and why would suddenly people be loving it when it becomes "mandatory"? but that's not the case at all. They had no choice and of course they will become "Christians" and this weapon is being used even today to do exactly what it is supposed to do. Poison people's mind, mind control and enslave others. I am of those who will not be enslaved and I am of those they choose not to mess with because they know better. In this regard, I feel I demonstrate more "Assyrian courage" because I do not back down from my enemy nor from anyone. I respect Sargon, Ashur, Nebuchtnazzer, Sencharib more than these Christian bigots do and I like to be like them or like Khalid Bin waleed, Ali ibn abu Taleeb, and others. One thing I will never be is a coward because I have honor and self respect. I will never bring my enemy down in a cowardly way. I rather strike fear into his heart from miles away and bring him down with honor. --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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