The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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...who feed off this "nation", Fred Aprim has the worst buzzard breath. He's the epitome of the self-promoting engineers and accountants etc who've latched onto the idea that they have a "nation" and as such a duty to "save" the Christians of Iraq. Without his self-proclaimed status as an "assyrian nationalist", Fred Aprim could write no books, print no books, give speeches to no one, instead he'd be an out of work mechanical engineer who'd have to find a legitimate cause somewhere else.

The Triangle of Submissiveness

..great title.

A Guest Opinion

Fred Aprim
California

The three conferences held in Ankawa (Aghajan), Ceres/Modesto (Dadesho) and Tehran (Bet Kolia) have stirred many discussions among Assyrians (also known as Chaldeans, Nestorians, Jacobites, Suryanis, and ChaldoAssyrians) around the world. The perspectives expressed on the various Internet-based forums, around Assyrian dinner tables and over tea or coffee gatherings are entertaining. However while certain opinions lack touch with reality, and are biased and strictly emotional in nature, there is that sound opinion, which explores the events surrounding these three conferences with untarnished conviction based on logic, competent sense, impartial and virtuous understanding. The question being asked: Where these three conferences connected? What is/are the common denominator?

..you see how easy it is? Fred Aptim declares himself to be possessed of all virtue and everyone else lacking...a position he can only maintain by being very careful whom he has dinner with.

Simple analysis of the circumstances and events suggests that the three conferences had a common mission to devastate the independent party of the Assyrian Democratic Movement (ADM). Furthermore, the three conferences construct the triangle of submissiveness; a submissiveness to the empowered and wealth augmented Kurds where they, i.e., the conferences, represent the three segments (sides) of this triangle. Further analysis indicates that certain patriarchs and/or bloc of bishops from the three main Syriac-speaking churches are the vertices of this triangle and the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) as its centroid.

..and you people, all members of competing sects, have been doing this before the Arabs came...and will keep on doing it as long as there are enough Christians making a "presence" for you in Iraq and who can therefore be used as the objects of your "work".

Allow me to present an overview of the three carefully woven conferences and explore the bigger picture.

..."carefully woven"....how about your "unravelling" analysis?

The Ankawa Conference (in northern Iraq) of Mr. Sargis Aghajan
Mr. Sargis Aghajan is a member of the KDP of Masoud Barazani and he is the Minister of Finance in the Northern Iraq's Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG). He orchestrated the Ankawa Conference of March 12-13, 2007. The Ankawa Conference was backed and financed by the KDP. Later, a People's Committee and a leadership from that committee were selected/elected.

It can be argued that the Ankawa Conference had three main objectives:

To undermine and marginalize the ADM and the 2003 Baghdad Conference and then isolate it and to establish a new leadership, blindly pro-Barazani.

...right. Because everyone, Kurds especially, are AFRAID of you all!

To position the Assyrians in order to welcome and accept the annexation of the Nineveh Plains to the Kurdish region of northern Iraq (Assyria),

..they can welcome it or not...as they can accept any reality..or not.

which is currently part of Ninawa ( Nineveh) Governorate. This is in line with other reports, which indicate that the Kurds are working currently to usurp oil-rich Kirkuk, Mosul and other regions to the KRG.

..and wouldn't you love to do that.

Improve the oppressive KDP image and present it as the savior of the Assyrian people. The KDP needed to counter many Diaspora Assyrian activists and independent media groups, such as AINA and Zinda,

...you are all OUTSIDE Iraq and safely so...it costs you nothing to demand the moon.

that have been very vocal against the unfair policies and actions of the KDP towards the Assyrians since the creation of the no-flying-zone in northern Iraq (historic Assyria) in 1992.

...you've been yelling "UNFAIR" since before the Arabs came...just who you're crying to is unclear...unless it's just yourselves...certainly everyone else knows life is unfair.

The KDP has been accused, and rightfully so, of marginalizing the true representatives of the Assyrian people,

..you are a MINORITY! Who needs to "marginalize" you?...you already ARE "on the margins"...your small numbers count for nothing...if Afro-Americans elect ONE leadership, that leadership can do NOTHING for them that is opposed by the majority...D'uh! What you want to do is be recognized as THE minority leaders...even when a majority of your minority didn't vote for you.

oppressing those who do not approve of its unfair policies, ethnic persecution and cleansing, undermining and denying the legitimate rights of the indigenous Assyrians in northern Iraq, interfering in the Assyrians' internal affairs and denying Assyrians basic rights unless they show complete obedience and submission to the Barazanis and KDP.

..there you go again. It's the same "tactic" you fuckers used before where Saddam was concerned...all you want to do is make the Kurds take their frustration at you out on the local Christian population...so they will be FORCED to come under "one leadership"...yours.

An important point here is that the participants of the Ankawa Conference agreed to adopt the compound title "Chaldean Syriac Assyrian" in order to unify the various Syriac-speaking Christian communities in Iraq. This was to counter the "ChaldoAssyrian" term introduced by the ADM in Baghdad's Conference in 2003.

..it's all a name-game...everyone else knows that but you...as much as you proved that Chaldeans are a modern creation and not lineal descendants of the ancient Chaldeans...so can it be proved that you modern assyrians are also a creation of Europeans.

Honoring Aghajan

The U.S. Government allocated billions of dollars of aid for the reconstruction efforts in Iraq. Over $30 millions were assigned for the Syriac-speaking Christian Assyrians. The U.S. aid monies allocated to the Christians were handed to the KRG to manage, since it is a governmental entity in northern Iraq. The KRG and perhaps other decision makers selected Aghajan to be in charge of the distribution and use of this U.S. aid package.

...as they have every RIGHT to do as the GOVERNMENT of Kurdistan...they owe a minority nothing.

The construction of churches and homes went under way. The two questions here are: Why were more extravagant churches being built for this Christians and why were not Assyrian schools and cultural centers built instead? On the one hand, it is in the best interest of the Kurds to ensure that religion continues to dominate Assyrian society.

This would contribute to keeping the Assyrians divided across their religious denominations and maintain that confrontational and envy environment between the various Assyrian religious denominations.

...YOU people are perfectly capabble of gouging each other's eyes out...no need of anyone else to get you going.

On the other hand, traditionally, schools and cultural centers play a vital role in raising national and patriotic awareness.

..then why, in 100 plus years in the West, have you people created NOT ONE?

Thus, it is not in the best interest of the KDP to promote that. Still, there are many questions on who owns the grant deeds of those homes and who is entitled to them. Reports indicate that certain grant deeds are at times linked to other institutions and that only KDP supporters are being rewarded with homes.

..as only friends of Bush get government monies...so?

At any rate, patriarchs began to praise Aghajan and presented him with medals of honor. Aghajan became a hero virtually overnight as patriarchs showered him with praise in their speeches, special letters and/or in their medal-award ceremonies. This process was a surprise to many Assyrians since they had not witnessed such system of honoring an individual before, applied by their churches. The medals seem to have been designed and created especially for Aghajan to glorify him. The making of Aghajan continued with the support of certain Assyrians that are KDP associates, such as Fawzi Hariri, and few other smaller and weaker organizations, including the Assyrian Patriotic Party (APP), Bet Nahrain Democratic Party (BNDP), Chaldean Cultural Center of Ankawa that are supported by the KRG and Barazani. The leaders of these institutions and those KDP associates were awarded ministerial cabinet positions in the KRG and the Central Government. Furthermore, the suspended Fr. Emmanuel Baito Youkhanna was reinstated in the Assyrian Church of the East (ACOE). Fr. Youkhanna is the brother of Nimrod Baito Youkhanna, the Secretary General of the APP. Fr. Youkhanna began his extensive attacks against the ADM with his Arabic articles that were posted on www.ankawa.com. Following in the footsteps of the ACOE, Mr. Sargon Dadesho's media outlets of Ceres/Modesto began to praise Aghajan as well.

..you are ALL ferocious ass-kissers...why only blame your priests?

The Pro-Kurdish Propaganda of Aghajan
Aghajan has been working very hard to ensure that whenever a special referendum is to take place in northern Iraq ( Assyria), our people would vote in favor of linking the Nineveh Plains to the Kurdish region and the KRG. Aghajan of course has his resources, whether in the form of the media (www.ankawa.com web site and Ishtar Satellite TV) or individuals and institutions that do most of the dirty work for him and for the KDP. For example, Mr. Jibrael Marko, a member of the preparatory committee of the Ankawa Conference and Mrs. Linda Gabriel (European Syriac Union) are touring Europe and presenting seminars about the concept of our people's self rule, its geographic borders and its administrative status within Iraq, as the announcement on www.ankawa.com puts it. However, the announcement did not refer to the Kurdish attempts to annex the Nineveh plains to the Kurdish region and thus swallowing the last stronghold of the Assyrians in Iraq.

..it is not your "stronghold" Your bogus claims have never been honored in BetNahrain..not seriously and certainly not when it comes to taking someone else's land because you think it is owed to you...you take land by TAKING it...ask the United States.

One such seminar was scheduled to take place in Vienna on August 12, 2007. On July 28, 2007, the two individuals had a similar seminar in London, England. According to Mr. Albert Michael of London, who attended the seminar, Mr. Marko flagrantly misrepresented the truth and promoted the KDP agenda as propagated by Aghajan. If we really listen to what Mr. Marko d stated we would find that his speech is baseless, because article 125 of the Iraqi Constitution allows only for the establishment of an administrative area.

...that piece of American paper is worth nothing..it was imposed on Iraq by the Americans..it certainly has no binding effect...they all know that.

Any other form of autonomy or self-rule has no legal basis.

,,,sure it does...just like the taking of Jamestown in Virginia..these things are done by FORCE...not by begging and pleading. HOw many more times do you need to see your "demands" going nowhere before you shut up...or back to Iraq and fight THERE!

To attain autonomy, which few of our groups are claiming to be working on, one must first amend the current Iraqi Constitution. When Mr. Marko and Ms. Gabriel were asked how they would overcome this major obstacle, they said that they would amend the Iraq Constitution. When Mr. Michael asked whether they had a member of Iraq’s constitutional committee actively working on this specific amendment, Ms. Gabriel replied "yes". A little later on, when Mr. Michael asked her to name the person, she retracted her earlier answer and confessed that there wasn’t anyone. Then how are they going to accomplish what they are claiming?

...how the hell is a minority going to amend anything?

According to Mr. Michael, the following were few of the deceptive and false statements made by Marko during his opening remarks. Of course, these false statements are repeated by every Aghajan associate:

..as are Kenna's by you...and your's by you.

That it was Aghajan who first introduced the Nineveh Plains initiative for our Chaldean Syriac Assyrian people.
That it would be prudent to attach the said region to the northern Iraq Kurdish region.
That the Kurds would speak on our behalf and defend our rights.
That the Kurdish constitution is favorable towards Assyrians.
That Mr. Younadam Kanna, Member of Iraqi Parliament and Secretary General of the ADM, is against an autonomous or administrative region.
These claims by Marko and Aghajan associates are absolutely false. Allow me to clarify that:

Whatever Aghajan is proposing today was originally proposed in the ADM's 2003 Baghdad Conference. In fact, the ADM's proposals were enshrined in the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL).

..it was no "shrine".

The KDP does not have the Assyrians' best interest on their agenda since the Kurds are establishing Kurdistan over Assyria. The KDP has demonstrated acts of racism and ethnic cleansing towards the Assyrians while ruling with brutality and injustice over other Assyrian regions such as those in Dohuk Governorate for example.
The KDP have repeatedly demonstrated that it is a non-democratic party. It has consistently undermined and marginalized the Assyrians as the indigenous people of the region and their true representatives.

..you are not assyrians...you are not the indigenous people of Iraq...when will you get that through your national head?

The Kurdish constitution is not written in the Assyrians' interest since it presents Assyrians as a minor group after the two major Arabs and Kurdish ethnic groups and then separates Assyrians into Assyrians and Chaldeans.

..as you used to do.

Marko cannot deceive the public while, for example, articles 2 and 3 of the current Kurdish constitution are phrased the way they are or Assyrians and their history are almost completely left out from the preamble.

..of course he can...as most politicians deceive people....where were you born?

Younadam Kanna is not against an administrative area; in fact, the ADM initiated it in 2003 Baghdad Conference. He and the ADM are working within what the Iraqi Constitution allows. Meaning, there is no use of demanding something that would be seen as an action against the Iraqi state and its constitution. Autonomy at this junction is not feasible; however, administrative region linked to the Central Government is possible and instituted in the Iraqi Constitution.

..that constitution is worthless....everyone knows it will be torn to shreds when America is gone..no one is going to abide by it since it was dead on arrival from the first.

The KDP is indeed showing favorable gestures towards the Christians in northern Iraq. However, what is the point when the KDP categorizes everyone in northern Iraq as Kurdistanis and their politicians and self-made historians deem Assyrians as Christian Kurds?

..that's exactly the point...the point is that NO ONE recognizes you as assyrians OR chaldeans...they allow you to play in your clubs and churches...but no one gives it any serious thought. You were Iraqis all along...says so in your passports and birth certificates...and now you can be Kurdistanis. That's the way it works. You can CALL each whatever you want...that doesn't MAKE you what you say you are.

Conference of the Assyrian National Congress (Ceres/Modesto, California) of Mr. Sargon Dadesho and the Surprising Letter

Mr. Odisho Malko is a well-known Iraqi Assyrian writer and historian. He ran in the January 2005 Iraqi national elections under Slate 139 and his name was positioned on top of all candidates on that slate. Slate 139 ran under the "Assyrian" only name and was strongly supported by Mr. Sargon Dadesho and his media outlets of Ceres, California. However, slate 139 failed to make any impact in the Iraqi elections. That is history. Where Malko stood after the 2005 elections, what he supported or attended are not the purpose of this article.

..and Kenna, who "made an impact" in the elections FAILED to make any impact anywhere else...except to stroke the balls of you people living OUTSIDE of Iraq by telling you what you wanted to hear...for cash.

Recently, Malko has posted an article on ANA-Ashur web site in which he presented his own thoughts about the various Assyrian conferences that we are addressing. In his article, Malko talks about a letter that most of us were unaware of. The letter interested this writer and it should be of interest to every Assyrian. Malko states that at the conclusion of the congress/conference of the ANC of Dadesho, which took place on March 24-25, 2007 in Ceres, the ANC sent an official letter to the leadership of the Ankawa Conference asking for a meeting between the two groups to address the general situation and unify the goals and demands of the various Assyrian groups. By planning his ANC conference following immediately that of Ankawa, Dadesho tried to add to the popularity of Aghajan and attempted to farther isolate the ADM in the Diaspora; what Aghajan was doing inside Iraq. An ACOE bishop and several priests attended the opening ceremonies of Dadesho's conference. Such participation of the churches in the national or political conferences is ceremonial in many occasions.

...big deal.

Lies, Bias and Double Standards

...the rules at your forum.

For years, Dadesho, who is linked directly to the ANC, BNDP, Bet Nahrain Inc. and its media organs AssyriaSat, Assyria Times and Bet Nahrain Forum, has claimed to be the defender and protector of the "Assyrian" name. He's often noted that he would never compromise the Assyrian name or accept any compounded names as a political compromise. Dadesho has been attacking the ADM since the 2003 Baghdad Conference in which the ADM introduced the compound title "ChaldoAssyrians" in order to unify the Chaldeans, Nestorians, Jacobites, Suryanis etc. On his AssyriaSat and Bet Nahrain Forum, Dadesho and his volunteers/supporters have been calling the ADM, its leaders, and all ADM supporters as traitors, nation-sellers, etc. for using that compound name. To be such a patriot is admirable, but one wonders: why such strong principles and stands are suddenly compromised? Why did he send that friendly letter to the Ankawa Conference leadership, which had adopted the compound name "Chaldean Syriac Assyrian"? If the ACOE has honored Aghajan with a medal knowing that he has introduced a compound name, why has Dadesho become the mouthpiece of the ACOE and its PR firm? As a politician, Dadesho couldn't accomplish anything or muster serious support from the Assyrian people; therefore, he turned to the churches to obtain that support. I would like to go farther and ask if the ACOE was against the 2003 Baghdad Conference, because ADM adopted a compound name, then why did it accept the compound name introduced by Aghajan and then reward the Kurdish official with a medal? Is the compound name of Aghajan made of gold while that of the ADM made of tin? This question I have asked repeatedly for almost a year. I am still waiting for an answer.

...check you bed tonight...there may be a traitor hiding under it. You can go on "waiting"...you know how long we waited for answers from you?

Barazani Defends the Kurdish Cause. Who are the BNDP and ANC Defending?
No Assyrian in his/her right mind would suggest that the KDP and Barazani are of benefit for the Assyrians, as an ethnic group (not as Christian millet) with historic rights in northern Iraq ( Assyria). Barazani and the KDP have been working hard for the establishment of the illusive Kurdistan over Assyrians' historic homelands (Assyria). They have marginalized the true Assyrian leadership, the Assyrians' historic rights and history. If that is the case, why is it that media outlets of BNDP and ANC in Ceres, i.e., AssyriaSat, Assyria Times and Bet Nahrain Forum, have not criticized and attacked Barazani and the KDP? One visit to the Bet Nahrain Forum for example one could see that the general discussion is predominantly religious in nature and about the greatness of the ACOE and its leadership, the court case of ACOE vs. Mar Bawai Soro, or how to boycott the Assyrian National Convention or how to jeopardize certain rallies that are being organized around the world to bring awareness to the unfair treatment of Assyrian Christians and their tragic fate since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Those that post on Bet Nahrain Forum avoid discussing Barazani's undemocratic actions in northern Iraq ( Assyria); however, they attack fellow Assyrian writers, organizations, etc. Not even the Late Julius Shabbas who gave so much of his life for Assyrian cultural issues escaped the grime, filth, and tackiness of AssyriaSat.

..as you all attack each other...you are attack dogs...cowards who snip at each others heels and bark at people's backs. And you were doing this to each other since before the Arabs came and forced you apart...and you continue doing it in the West where there are no Kurds, Turks of Arabs to blame...just you.

I have no problem with buttressing the ACOE or any other church for that matter, but these days external forces that are much powerful are challenging the Assyrian national movement.

...no one is "challenging" your silly "movement". The Kurds, like Saddam before them, don't want your churches teaching this nonsense again...they see well enough how you can be put to work by outsiders attacking Iraq and maybe some day Kurdistan..the sooner they force your children to think of themselves as Kurds...the sooner they may unify the country into ONE identity...it's not the best way to do it but the alternative is unacceptable...you'll be hollering forever, from San Jose, that you "national" rights are being trampled upon and you MUST have some Christian nation attack Kurdistan and "save you"....like you JUST did...to disasterous results.

Therefore, it is vital that Assyrian nationalists, activists and political groups do the right thing and: First, work genuinely with one another towards the Assyrian common goals.

...work on them...join into one great big ASSYRIAN...and see if it gets you anything...

Second, step aside and allow churches to handle their own internal disputes. The court of law will decide if one is guilty or not. Emotional outbursts, empty accusations and bias personal incrimination on Internet forums are worthless and do not stand in a court of law. We must end bringing personal convictions related to faith and its complications into national matters and into politics and vice versa

...you will never stop...as you never have....because it is all religious and no one will compromise where their religion is concerned...your "fronts" are just that...and they are easy to see through.

I am appalled how millions of desperately needed dollars are being wasted on court expenses when this money could have helped thousands of desperate Assyrians in Iraq, Syria, Jordan and other distressed places.

...that should be your answer.

The Assyrian Universal Conference of Mr. Yonatam Bet Kolia in Tehran, Iran
Having gone over certain aspects of the Ankawa and ANC conferences, I would like to touch upon the July 24-26, 2007 Tehran's Assyrian Universal Conference as well, because it adds another dimension. Mr. Yonatam Bet Kolia, Assyrian Universal Alliance's (AUA) Secretary of Asia and the Member of Iranian Parliament, organized the Tehran Conference. The AUA was split in regards to the Tehran conference, but high-ranking officials, including Mr. Fraidon Darmo, acting Secretary General; Mr. Carlo Ganjeh (Secretary of the Americas), Mr. Youra Tarverdi (Executive Board Member) and others attended. We know that Mr. Darmo came to Washington with the KDP associate Fawzi Hariri and expressed their opposition to Congresswoman Anna Esho's planned proposition in U.S. Congress for a Nineveh Plain self-administrated region linked to the Central Government since this was against the KDP plans. Subsequently, the proposition was withdrawn. The AUA's cooperation with Aghajan and the Ankawa Conference is puzzling and most importantly contradictory to its official declarations since the Ankawa Conference adopted a compound name "Chaldean Syriac Assyrian" while the AUA in its 24th World Congress in London, July 7-9, 2005 stated clearly that: "We reaffirm that there will no longer be a variety of names to divide the Assyrian people, but all will be referred to as Assyrians."

...absolutely meaningless....people in psotions of power do not come to you for guidance. They leave you alone for the most part to prattle and rave all you want to...who cares or has need to pay attention? Except when they want to use you and therefore flatter you a bit with "meetings".

Furthermore, according to www.brasheet.com, Reverend Father Yousef Rashidi of the ACOE St. George's Cathedral in Tehran was present and he read a letter of support from Patriarch Mar Dinkha IV. Mar Ramzi Garmo, Bishop of the Chaldean Catholic Church is the only residing bishop from a Syriac-speaking church in Iran. He was present as well. Many Assyrians in Iran are Catholics and are members of the Chaldean Catholic Church. The last physically residing bishop from the ACOE in Iran was Mar Dinkha. He left Tehran after his consecration as patriarch in London in 1976. Even though Patriarch Mar Dinkha IV has been residing in Chicago, he personally continues to oversee the affairs of the ACOE diocese in Iran. Patriarch Mar Dinkha IV has special warm connection to Iran since he lived in Tehran while serving his church as a priest and as a bishop for two decades.

..ho-hum

Of course, Bet Kolia made sure to invite Dadesho and other members of the ANC and BNDP to the conference. Mr. Habib Afram of the Lebanese Syriac League was invited to the Tehran conference also. He was present at the Ankawa Conference as well.

..."of course".

The Bigger Picture of Bet Kolia's Actions
We have to look at the bigger picture and try to analyze what is taking place. Bet Kolia visited northern Iraq (Assyria) and attended the Ankawa Conference of Aghajan. Next, he visited the United States and was invited by Dadesho to attend the ANC conference in Ceres/Modesto, California. In San Jose earlier, he had a presentation at the Assyrian American Association (AAA) of San Jose, which this writer attended. In his presentation, Bet Kolia went out of his way to praise the ACOE and its patriarch. He praised the Iranian government and its policies repeatedly. This is not new of course. In an interview with Pawand's Iran News on June 6, 2006, he stated "Assyrians of Iran are not persecuted and that they are treated equal with Muslims." He returned on July 25, 2007 to state for MNA Iranian News that " Iran is a typical example of peaceful coexistence between members of different religions" and that "We [Christians] are having equal rights with Muslims." However, Bet Kolia did not explain why during his representation of the Assyrian community in the Iranian Parliament as the "Representative of the Assyrians and Chaldeans" most of the 100,000 Assyrians that lived in Iran before the 1979 Iranian Islamic Revolution have fled Iran.

..oh come on! What a paranoiac you are.

He did not explain why is it that today there are only between 10,000 and 15,000 Assyrians left in Iran, as he confirmed during that presentation.

...everybody left because of the mullahs the United States put in power.

Furthermore, in his presentation, Bet Kolia repeatedly attacked the ADM. It appeared that he was there to incite the public against the ADM more than anything else and he did not forget to brag about his accomplishment for the Assyrians in Iran. That just amazed me looking at where Assyrians were in Iran during the rule of the Shah (before 1979) and where they are today under the Islamic Ayatollahs.

....you are easily amazed.

On August 13, 2007, the AUA/Americas Chapter issued a statement in response to the editorial of Mr. Wilfred Bet Alkhas in the August 1, 2007 issue of Zinda magazine. In it, the AUA/Americas Chapter continued to praise the Iranian Islamic Government and its fair treatment of Assyrians. The statement went on to blame the Assyrian misfortunes in Iran basically on the thirty years of economic sanctions and the eight years of war (1980-1988) that Iraq initiated. It went further to say: "The hardships faced by the Iranians could have been a legitimate reason for the Iranian government to disregard the Assyrians and the Assyrian issues altogether." I am speechless!

...would that were true.

Worth mentioning that certain observers believe that the AUA as a whole is not part of what has been orchestrated lately. Certain AUA members disapprove of the latest questionable involvements of Bet Kolia in the Ankawa, Ceres and Tehran Conferences.

...like we said, you are ALL "against" each other....those are your "politics".

As far as Iran is concerned, it seems to me that it outsmarted the Tehran Conference organizers. Because no matter what the goals of Bet Kolia/Dadesho were, Iran's main purpose for agreeing to host that conference was to get back at the U.S. Administration for lashing against it in regards to minority rights violations. Iranian officials used the conference as propaganda against the U.S. Administration. The rationale for hosting Dadesho in Tehran is that Iran perhaps needed to offer good gesture towards him as he stopped hosting television programs by the Azeri and Ahwazi Iranian secessionist groups that purchased air time on his AssyriaSat. The U.S. connection in this, if any, needs to be investigated and analyzed further.

...right, EVERYBODY is afraid os assyrians.

Aghajan, Dadesho and Bet Kolia: The Purpose is Clear
I believe that the triangle of submissiveness toward the Kurds was well represented in the Ankawa

...as your submissivenes to Bush and his war against Iraq was well represented by you living in America and backing an American war against BetNahrain.

(Aghajan), Ceres/Modesto (Dadesho) and Tehran (Bet Kolia) conferences and it fits with the bigger plans of the KDP. The KDP neutralized the ADM and it is about to officially annex the Nineveh Plain to the Kurdish region.

...as they have everfy right to do. When you want to win a game you stay on the court!!!

Each player does his part for his own reasons, but they compliment one another at the end. Aghajan is in it because he is a member of the KDP and his loyalty is foremost to the Kurdish agenda. Aghajan could not have split royalties or reflect two fundamentally different agendas; Kurdish and Assyrian, especially when the two agendas are conflicting because of land disputes and other obvious historic issues. Dadesho would do anything just to hurt the ADM. For him it is a personal vendetta and ego satisfaction and working with Aghajan and the ACOE at this time serves him well. Dadesho changes his alliances as frequent as he changes his suits, shirts and neckties that he purchased after winning his tainted lawsuit against the fallen Iraqi government.

..who buys your suits?

His satellite TV is his real power. Bet Kolia's connection is due to his strong relationship with the ACOE, which is cooperating with the KDP and Aghajan. Many would agree that Bet Kolia should concentrate more on the problems and bleak future of the remaining 10,000 Assyrians in the Islamic Iran. I believe that this reflection is not beneficial. It was only post WWI that modern Iraq and Syria were created and that modern Turkey and Iran acquired their present borders. This contributed to dividing Assyrians and historic Assyria across four separate countries, which was not the case prior to WWI. Before WWI, Assyrians lived predominantly in a region falling mainly within the Ottoman Empire and partly within the Persian state and there were hardly any specifically defined frontiers between the two power states. The Assyrians in Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria are facing the same dark fate represented in the rise of fundamental and militant Islam and the Kurdish illegal expansion.

..it is not "illegal"....every nation on earth was seized "illegally"...that's the way things are done...anyone who can't SEIZE land will not be able to keep it anyway..it's a sort of a test of one's fitness to maintain power...and you people can only bicker, attack each other and beg people for "help"...not a good sign for a "nation".

However, we must consider that the policies of different countries might limit the involvement of Assyrian representatives (in Iran, Iraq and Syria for example) from being part of a more global effort regarding the future of Assyrians.

...there is no such thing...no future as assyrians. You have a future as members of whatever countries you reside in whoi will, in time, come to see themselves as part of that nation. That's all.

Final Remarks
When insignificant Assyrian groups, including the APP, BNDP, ANC, and individuals of split loyalties or questionable past become so active in organizing conferences, marginalizing the elected independent Assyrian group (ADM) and paving the road for the annexation of the Nineveh Plains to the Kurdish region, we must raise questions. When the weaker APP and BNDP opened the Assyrian door for the KDP to infiltrate, undermine and then marginalize the democratically elected ADM, it became very hard for Assyrians to manage the Assyrian home freely. Let me assert that the best interest of the Assyrians is not to be under the Kurdish control. The Kurds have proven throughout the centuries and most recently in the last two decades that they have no interest in respecting Assyrians' historic rights as indigenous people or being democratic. In fact, the Kurds have done the greatest damage to Assyrians in the last 300 years in Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq, more than any other ethnic group. One simple and swift look at who illegally occupies most of Assyrian ancestral lands and villages in northern Iraq, northwestern Iran, southeastern Turkey and northeastern Syria proves this point.

On the other hand, the U.S. must uphold the principles of democracy and must protect the rights of the minorities and indigenous people across the board. First, Aghajan and Dadesho are not the Assyrians' representatives in Iraq; the former is a Kurdish party official and the latter is the head or part of some insignificant Diaspora institutions. Neither one is elected by the Assyrians. ADM was elected as the major representative of the Assyrians in Iraq through two Iraqi national elections. Thus, the U.S. Administration must deal with the ADM in principle.

Secondly, the annexation of the Nineveh Plains to the Kurdish region is neither in the best interest of the Assyrians nor the United States. The Kurds have many problems with their neighbors, whether Sunni or Shi'aa or whether Arabs, Persians, or Turks. The present alliance between the Kurds and the Shi'aa in the Iraqi Government is superficial. The animosity between the Arabs and Kurds is much deeper for few politicians to patch, considering what the Kurds have done in the last four years in Iraq and what they are planning. Therefore, the Assyrians, Shabaks, and Yezidis should not be under the Kurdish control, because any future conflict between the Kurds and Arabs or between Kurds and Persians or Turks would lead to a complete disaster for those vulnerable small groups. If such was the case, the Kurds would not be in position to help these groups and a wholesale genocide could take place. The Nineveh Plains must be administered by independent Assyrians, Shabaks and Yezidis and under the direct control of the United States and the United Nations, now that the UN has voted to expand its role in Iraq. Furthermore, the Nineveh Plain region must be in good terms with the Iraqi Central Government.

There are certain writers who claim that participating in a conference does not mean that one necessarily agrees with the final statement and decisions of that conference. This is strange to state, especially when that person or group does not issue a special statement to make that clear. These writers go on to state that the AUA for example in its 24th Congress (2005) made it clear that it is for the Assyrian name only, therefore, it does not need to elaborate on what the Ankawa Conference declared, regarding the name issue. These writers go on to state that the Assyrian groups should basically deal with the devil if necessary. I guess that this is in line with the AUA policy. The AUA/Americas Chapter in its August 13, 2007 statement states: "In order to make progress in the Assyrian Cause and to promote the Assyrian rights and interests, AUA has and will engage in diplomatic dialogue with all relevant nations, organizations and parties."

The question remains: How many congresses, conferences and meetings have the Assyrian groups organized since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003? What did they accomplish? Conferences such as Ankawa, Ceres, and Tehran will remain dubious and suspicious to this writer, because we have seen too many of them by the same players, ending with nothing but a worthless declaration. The purpose of these conferences is the same: to impress the public and show objection to something that another group has stated, done or is planning to do. I have yet to see a conference with a serious agenda, short-term and long-term plans, follow ups, actions and then results. This is expected because the BNDP, APP, and others while sleeping with the KDP could not put one block on top of another if that was not in the interest of the Kurds. Thus, declarations and statements with emotional banners of "Khaya Atour" seem more of a façade for failure and defeat than a genuine concern for the fate of a nation. This writer's convictions today continue to be that many Assyrian institutions, political and religious, are not independent, are not endowed with free will, and are playing to the tunes of the KDP, which is dangerous and non-beneficial to the Assyrian question and future.

....no one, absolutely no one is interested in YOUR take on what your "rights" are. The seats at the table are reserved for those who EARN their rights...not whine and beg them.

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