The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Tuesday, November 1 2011, 9:48:30 (UTC)
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I was reading about the ancient Egyptians and what scholars say about their racial origin, and then I looked at ancient Assyrians and I come across this white supremacist site. And what do I see? An Assyrian trying to convince these aryans that that his people are white. He goes on to show pictures of modern Assyrians and says "see they're white" and the nazis still didn't accept him even though he cherry picked the photos. it is like the pro-Shah Iranians who show the lightest skinned Iranians and say "they're white" and exclude the many other ones. This fool really lost me on this one and i was right when I called them KKK members before I was banned from one of their forums.

here is the link to the nazi site but i have some things I wanna refute since I can't post on there.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t427832-6/

I have disagreements about what he wrote and here it is:

"After Egypt was forced to convert to Islam, their populations interbred with the Arab muslims becoming Arabfied, however the Assyrians refused arabification and never converted to Islam, thats another reason we kept our ancient language and culture, we wern't allowed to breed with non-christian populations, and we were conquered by the Arabs, Persians, turks and kurds, which all of them were and are Muslim."

First of all, Egypt wasn't forced to convert to Islam and there are still 10 to 14 million Egyptian Christians. And if you're trying to say the Copts are descendants of ancient Egyptians, that's not true. The Egyptians were of the Black race more than likely and with various skin complexions and obviously mixing was also common. As for Assyrians never converting to Islam, I need to know your definition of "assyrian". If the Nestorians of the last 2,000 years are all assyrian, then yes, they did convert and did so by the ton. In fact the majority of Jacobites and Nestorians converted to Islam between the 7th anc 9th centuries and, no, they were not forced. You're right that modern Assyrians don't convert but you are not ancients. You are just a group of Syriac Christians who adopted this name when nationalism swept through the region, and the name was given to you be Euros. I also disagree with your breeding comment as it is very clear from history that Nestorians married Muslims and even Kurds.

"Also the only people Assyrians ever mixed with that was significant were, babylonians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Arameans and other Mesopotamian people, this is why we speak Aramaic, the large deportation of those Aramean tribes into the Assyrian empire resulted into a lot of intermix, however Arameans were Mesopotamian so its alright."

How do you know? You think the ancient people were racist xtians like you? they mixed with everything and people of many races lived in Mesopotamia. They even mixed with Arabs. In fact, the real Assyrian language(you speak aramaic, a different language) is closer to classical Arabic than it is to your surith. Your last sentence is very silly but what I expect from a kkk dude?

"Egypt and other middle eastern nations such as Lebanon lost all their ancient roots since they became Arab, literally lost their language and most of their DNA is now Arab, this is because large populations of theirs converted to Islam, Assyrians are 98% christian 2% 'no religion'"

where you got the stats from and who took the survey? was every assyrian asked? what is even the population of assyrians? I wasn't asked about that survey and neither were my family members. I have 2 brothers who are Muslim and know at least a couple more who are converts. One of them even lives in your neck of the woods(Australia).

""The single-minded adherence to the Christian faith from late antiquity until the present time has made Christianity an indelible part of Assyrian identity, but it has also subjected the Assyrians to endless persecutions and massacres, first in the hands of the Romans, then in the hands of the Sasanian Persians, and last in the hands of Arabs, Kurds and Turks. These persecutions and massacres have reduced the total number of Assyrians from an estimated 20 million or more in antiquity to well under two million today." Professor Simo Parpola (University of Finland"

Christianity is all Assyrianism is about today. It was 150 years ago that British xtians named you assyrians. your church changed its name in 76 and the flag was created at that time. You were persecuted by the Romans but the Arabs, Kurds, and Turks is bullshit. Nestorians worked with muslims in baghad and other cities during the Islamic golden age. You ever heard of that even? probably not. Christians also lived in the Ottoman empire for many centuries unharmed. You weren't persecuted but some of you were arrested and even killed when you betrayed or joined invaders. In the past, Nestorians were loyal and sided with muslims against foreign invaders but the last 150 years you have been shady and not trustworthy. Of all people you bring simon parpola who is not even a historian and what he teaches has nothing to do with modern Assyrians who are Nestorian Christians.



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