The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> the many myths

Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Thursday, January 19 2012, 8:24:08 (UTC)
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They are too many to write about and I am trying to keep it short but I can't avoid thinking about all of the things we are brought up with and taught as "truth." We grow up with all the stories and only come to find out almost everything we thought and were told was untrue. or at least some of us come to realize. We got the more popular ones which is always about what Islam did to us. We have our "martyrs" the forced conversions and many other things. There is also king Agbar, who never even existed, yet this is the man who supposedly converted Assyrians to Christianity.

People don't think about how silly some of these stories are. One example is when they say islam was forced on Assyrians and on everyone wherever it went. We show them proof that most Nestorians and Jacobites didn't just disappear but they converted to Islam, and then they tell us that it was to avoid having to pay the Jizya. The Jizya is looked at as something negative toward them when it was the opposite. One can easily debunk this myth by simply asking why would they convert to Islam just to avoid the Jizya when now they have to pay zakat as Muslims and the zakat tax is taken by both genders and is even higher than jizya. They tell us that an ASssyrian would never convert to Islam and leave Jesus even if you put a gun to his head, but then they tell us that the converted Assyrians did it to avoid paying taxes. In other words, they don't convert under force but will do so to avoid a few coins. If this were true, it just shows how weak Christianity is as opposed to Muslims who never accepted the religion of the conqueror, yet in many cases the conquerors of Muslim lands became Muslim themselves.

Then you have the story of the Mahlimis of Turkey and Wikipedia along with evry Bet-Shlimon tells us that they are pure assyrians who just converted to Islam in recent centuries because they were upset at their church for not letting them eat meat during fast. Really? Who believes this shit? What kinds of fasting do Christians do in the first place? I am not gonna have sex with my boyfriend for 15 days? or I am not gonna eat candy for 10 days or not eat meat for 30? If this story had any truth to it, why would they choose Islam which has far more fasting and is harder than Christianity? Islam may be easier than Christianity and more simple but it's a lot harder to do because you have a whole month of mandatory fasting where one abstains from all foods, drinks and sex throughout the daylight hours and for 30 days. This too doesn't make sense.

There was a story of 3 Egyptian girls who converted to Islam and the church was raising all kinds of hell. As always, the Christians in Egypt just like opur assholes from Iraq always have a justification story as to what the reason was and it's always a 'fake conversion' because a 'true" Christian will never leave Christianity. There was the Egyptian man who became as Muslim and Bet-Shlimon tells us that he just did it because he wanted to get a divorce from Muslim court since the church wouldn't give him one. Really, so he couldn't go to civil court in Egypt when they have a secular government? None of their stories make sense and they are all silly just as their nationalism is.

What exactly is Assyrian nationalism if not a joke. You have a church which changed it's name to Assyrian church of the east in 1976. The flag was made in 1975. In the late 1850s or so the "great discovery" is made and the Brits name the local nestorians as the descendants of the ancients; hence, "our new ally." The brits stroked our balls for their own interests and we ran with it. To be an Assyrian today is no different than being a Chaldean or a Mormon. It's a denomination of Christendom and you can't be Assyrian without being Christian just as you can't be a Chaldean without being Catholic. You wanna prove me wrong then become a Muslim and see if you still Assyrian. They cans lap tattoos on their chests all they want to with winged bulls and crosses but they are still just a bunch of Christian fanatics who hide behind assyrian nationalism. They weren't calling themselves Assyrian 500 years ago nor were they using Assyrian names. They were reading the Bible and hearing about Assyrians but it never occurred to them and say 'hey, that's us" yet they used Jewish names and even Arab names. When the Romans revived the Chaldean name and gave it to the Nestorian converts to Catholicism, the remaining ones became jealous and left out. There are records by various historians who traveled through Mesopotamia yet never mentioned any Assyrian living there. They mentioned Chaldeans and Jews but no Assyrian. Even Nestorian Bishops are recorded as saying that they are really Jews but now they are Assyrian and they like us to believe they always have been assyrian and always aware of it.

The truth is far from the above bullshit and there was no assyrian identity for over 2,000 years until recently. So when they say that Muslims invaded Assyria and stiole the land, we know they are lying because there was no assyria in the time of Muhammad as it was long gone and many other empires and people had been in historical ASSYRIA. This is not to say that there aren't any people who have Assyrian descent nor am I saying the ancients just vanished suddenly without a trace, but what I am saying is that the ancient Assyrians along with the Babylonians, akkadians, amorites, Chaldeans, Arameans, and the many other peoples are the ancestors of modern Iraqis and this would include Muslims and other religions as well. This has never been an issue nor a secret. Iraqis aren't as dumb as Fred Aprim or as dumb as they like to make them look.

Iraqis are highly cultured and proud of their heritage just as they are proud to be Muslim and other things. It wasn't Muslims who made life impossible for the local Christians but it's Christians from the west that can be blamed for it and the local Christians for bending over and giving their ass to the White man. If you don't believe me then send an Arab or a Kurd to date Aprim's sister and see what he will say, but not let a German or an American go with her and see how happy he will be.

This is the Assyrian story and their "nationalism" is just a bunch of bullshit. their nationalism and Christian alliances have only fucked them and it's going down the toilet as the only thing that keeps them in business is more dead Christians in Iraq and those Christians better be dead because Muslims killed them. Has anyone ever wondered why those Christians who were killed by other Christians are not on the martyr list? This indicates what their nayshun is really all about(apologize in advance for using your word, Pancho).

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