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=> the wrong way to argue....

the wrong way to argue....

Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Friday, December 19 2014, 15:55:16 (UTC)
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Defenders of Islam come off badly in debates with Hitchens and the gang because they are too mild...they are too forgiving and tolerant...faced with a Christian apologist who is calling Muhammad all sorts of names they always turn the other cheek...they never reply with accusations against Jesus....they wouldn't dare because their religion respects Jesus...but it hurts them in debate.

If I were Muslim, whether or not I was a true believer, I would never answer the challenges being presented to me, not, that is, until I first make my case against Jesus and HIS religion....instead and right away, Muslim apologists are thrown on the defensive or waste time extolling their religion when they should be exposing the Christian side...

The answer to Auschwitz was NOT a defense of Judaism, as a religion...but condemnation of CHRISTIANS for using THEIR religion to do such things.,,, the real discussion should be "Look at what you people are DOING with your Jesus".

It's odd when you consider the long list of countries the Christian United States has attacked or bombed in the last century alone to hear it said that Christianity is the religion of peace...especially when you contrast that with the almost nonexistent record of Muslim countries which have done anything even remotely similar. Given the claim that Islam is a religion of violence, shouldn't the record be the other way around? We're faced with the absurd situation where the followers of the religion of peace, Christianity, can't stop bombing and killing innocent people, while the supposed religion of violence has followers who DON'T follow the "basic" dictates of their own religion.

The truth is that ANY discussion of the "merits" of Islam is out of place and not the real issue...the issue is that Christians are USING Islam as the pretext for their "pre-emptive" attacks against Muslim countries...Muslim countries which have been deliberately handed over to extremism, for OUR benefit, and by US....

Driven to the point where they finally had to fight back, even though they had barely any weapons to do it with, Muslims are told that the only reason they took up arms to evict the invader was because of their RELIGION...and we, who started this whole thing, now validate that point over and over...it's what Hitchens and Dawkins and the rest have been doing for years.."look at Islam, THAT'S the reason they are fighting back".

This is not true and utter nonsense...we know it too because we didn't declare war on Japan because of Jesus...we could have been Buddhists and all atheists and we STILL would have fought back...because we were ATTACKED and when people are attacked they fight back....to muddy the waters by claiming it is because of religion that people defend themselves is to spread the same lies and slanders Christians used so effectively against Judaism only a short while ago.

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