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Forever bragg about how peaceful Jesus was, how he is prince of peace and how Christianity is all peaceful yey they are unable to live up to that example either by actions nor words? I find it pointless for Christians o boast about something yet be unable to follow up. It has been impossible for Christians to live up to the example of Jesus as portrayed by them and there are good reasons for that. I am not saying Jesus was a violent person but the picture as given by Christians is not accurate nor even reliable at all. Not a word of the New Testament can be traced back to the lips of Jesus, not one word. All for Gospels are of unknown authors and not original to begin with. Eye witness historians give us a different picture of Palestine during that time compared to the Christian bible. The new testament in reality is nothing more than a fabrication and a cover up by the church against Jesus and his real followers. The actual Jewish followers of Jesus were not like the Jesus as portrayed in the New Testament at all. James the Just, who was the leader of the movement and a direct student of Jesus, was not all "let's get along" "pay your taxes" "love your ennemies" "love those who persecute you" and all that other silly crap.

He was the opposite and so where his community. They were anti-Roman and spoke out against the occupation. They fought and both killed and died for their beliefs and cause. They caused trouble and were seen as seditious. In fact, crucifixion was reserved for sedition and all those who were againt the Roman occupation. It was not for theft, blasphemy nor any of that silly stuff. Christians need to get the story straight first as to why their man god was cruficified supposedly before trying to shove it down our throats. If Jesus committed blaspemy as Christians like us to believe by claiming to be God, he wouldn't have been crucified nor would that be a danger at all. He would have been seen as a harmless lunatic by both the Jewish parties. The Jewish concept and understanding of "God" is pretty concrete and identical with Islam. They would have sinmply laughed at him if he did such silly claims but of course he never did that. If his own would have been offended by such silly comments, they would have killed him on the spot and not crucifixion because they wouldn't have that kind of power.

The Christian need poor Jesus to die for them so badly because this is the only way to be "saved" according to paul and they don't care if their story is believable or not. In this case it is not only unbelievable but it contradicts with historical reality. How did the Jews or anyone in the Roman empire meet his death on the cross 2,000 years ago? It was for causing sedition. Anyone who spoke out against the occupation, said "hey this is not right" "you need to leave" "we had enough" "we are not paying taxes" etc would meet his death on the cross. At one period while Jesus would have been a teenager, 4,000 jews were crucified for tax purposes alone. This was for anyone who was a threat to the rulers(Romans). And history tells us that these people were a threat to the Romans and wanted them out. So for the Romans to have even attempted to crucify Jesus, he would have to have been a clear threat and could not hav been all "hey can't we all just get along" or "pay your taxes". He was a clear threat to them and was speaking out about the injustice. I already presented before that a person can be a threat without violence, weapons or fighting.

One can be a threat by just influencing people with words and Jesus had such ability. It is absurd to believe Jesus(as) was walking around with sandals on fresh green grass preaching the silly stuff while his people are being humiliated, tortured, persecuted and his women are gang raped in front of people. This is absurd to believe it and I can't imagine that. This is Christian fairytails just like Santa Clause is and Christians are used to being lied to since infancy. Even if Jesus was as the bible decribes and I will accept this even though it contradicts with historical reality of the time period and environment, Christians have been unable to follow Jesus and have been very violent, hostile and caused much bloodshed. It is easy for a Christian to do any crime or filth yet nail all responsibility to Jesus and the "cross". The Christian does adultery, and when caught will say "what can we do, we are all born evil and sinners".This is a cheap and coward way out of responsibilty.

The Christian is the most violent, hostile and warmongering person yet will bragg about peace and being the follower of a "prince of peace". In reality most Christians do not know the reality of Jesus and they justs wallow the church version of the story blindly. While the Christian will go out of the way to ignorantly attack Islam and Muslims with what he falsely learned from his pastor, they actually would wish they knew about Jesus as much as Muslims know about Muhammad(pbuh). There is only one western scholar, a non-Muslim, who has actually gone to stuudy the sciences of the hadiths. He has a phd in the Islamic hadith studies and this person is amazed about this phenominon of the sciences of hadiths. This guy being a Christian himself says "it would be nice if we had a portion of what Moslems have about their prophet". So the silly christians will go blindly and yank few propaganda writings out and say "see Islam says this and does that". They hear it from their pastors and don't ever actually care to know what they are reading so long it complies with their hatred.

That is silly and sad at the same time. When I ask Christians if they can prove the words of jesus to me from the Bible, they get angry and say "what a stupid arguement" I am asking why is it stupid? Don't like to know if a person really said something? I guess the Christian does not. It is silly for christians to try to compare Muhammad and Jesus by using the silly Christian version which goes against reality. When some of the persecuted Muslims fled to Abyssinya in the 7th century, the Christian ruler at the time never met Muhammad but just from hearing from the Muslims that came to him and observing them, he told them "there is no difference between your prophet and Jesus Christ, the two seem from the same bloodline". The emperor had embraced Islam without ever having met Muhammad(saaws). The Christians wish they knew about Jesus as we do about Muhammad, and they would have to be stuck on drinking urine, breast feeding, monkeys, and whatever else they manage to find from the Christian, ooops I mean "Muslim" sites.

As far as these Christian reported stories about a Muslim in Saudi Arabia or wherever killing his daughter etc, the Christians always manage to invent a story after they fail in the conversion attempts. I love these stories and the missionaries know they are not trusted not liked in China, India, and in Muslim countries. They use deception, pressure, propaganda and anything that works to try to gain uneducated and ignorabt people. Almost all of those stories about a Muslim father killing his daughter or a Christian being killed for being Christian are fabrications, propaganda, they are only and always reported by Christian missionary networks and over exaggerated. They lie, exaggerate and much more. Instead of telling us about the suicides, murders, robberies, rapes, etc in the Christian west or America, they tell us over and over, and over about someone in Afghanistan or wherever. The story is always blown out of proprtion, fabricated or almost hardly anything close to it. These stories are only found on Christian missionary sites and networks.

The reality is and this coming from non-Muslim sources, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Isllam does not need to be the world majority nor does that prove anything but it is just fair to mention to clear up something. These aren't my words but the racist CNN, BBC, USA today and many other sources tell us that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and second largest in the world and at the same time the second largest in the U.S, Canada, France, Germany, UK, and eslewhere. One Christian bigot claimed that a total of 40,000 "Moslems come to Christ every year world wide" and according the similar sources 18 thousands peaople converted to Islam last year alone in Britain. RTL the German network reported 12 thousand Germans convert to Islam every year. Again to me this really don't prove anything except that Christians fear Islam and most of them are bigoted war mongers and haters. They are not truly followers of the historical Jesus but rather the Jesus of Paul's imaginaton and the church which supports child molestation, rape, genocides and much more.

I guess they are all not "true Christians" neither nor are those daily murderers, rapists, suiciders etc in the U.S. Germany, UK, and other christian countries.

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