The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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you are not assyrian

Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Sunday, April 29 2012, 1:12:06 (UTC)
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You are not an “Assyrian” ethnic group...you might be a Nestorian, or East Christian or MidEast ethnic group...but you are not Assyrian. Before you take off running with this we-are-Asyrians business, we have to first establish that you ARE, and that has never been done and can't be done except by Aprim, aina and now Wikipedia.

Ask yourself why no reputable encyclopedia or history book will allow this nonsense into their works..or any university library? Sure, you guys have the HISTORY of the ancient Assyrian name and culture...but that isn't a history of YOU...you just say it is, and then talk about your assyrian genes and culture and the rest of it.

If the government seizes your funds because they believe they were ill gotten, you cannot use those funds to hire your lawyers, because your legitimate claim to that money is exactly the point in question. You have put the proverbial cart before the Assyrian jackass. It is yet to be proven that you are descended from the ancient Assyrians...Dr Joseph and various legitimate and verifiable sources say not, and they have shown their evidence...what do you have on the other side?

We hear your opinions and your views, and we've seen some professionals, expert in other fields, you've manged to find, but nothing more...and all of it highly partisan...you are people with a stake in proving your claim, what's in it for Dr Joseph to show you are wrong? What, fame and fortune? Or is it the standby...”he HATES us”! “Or, we is an ENEMY agent” When you people say these things to grown-ups you lose your battle right there...which is the reason Rafy, over at Wikipedia is keeping silent...he knows he has nothing factual to say in response, and he knows better than to call me an ENEMY, though he's hinted at as best he can by things like...”if you SAY you are Assyrian...” I've done more “Assyrian” things than he'll ever do...and yet I fully realize that I was mistaken, misled by my family, who were misled by theirs and all the way back to Layard and the Catholics...but we can correct errors. It's pathetic and unbecoming to dress yourself in borrowed finery...which is all this is.

Christians in Mesopotamia were stunned that in only 100 years Muslims conquered them and almost everyone else too. Where was Jesus...how come he was now second-banana? And how embarrassing that all those Christians embraced Islam...so naturally you all had to believe they were FORCED and also KILLED, just because they were Christians...it's hard, I know. But disguising yourselves as Assyrians has only made you all more foolish.

Since it has yet to be proven , or accepted, that you are what you say you are, you can't keep using the word “Assyrian” to describe yourselves, or your genes, or your “ethnicity” or your “nation”....kay?

The “opinion” and “interpretation” is all on your side. History is not an exact science..it isn't even a science. It is the serious study of what exists, what is recorded, with a close look at who is doing the assessment and why...as an academic, a disinterested scholar...a searcher after truth...or a partisan, out to make HIS case and therefore only interested in what seems to prove him right, which is what all you assyrians do. You don't know history because you aren't INTERESTED in history..but you know enough to know that you had better not study it, else your views and opinions will seem just that, the opinions of an uneducated person.

It's no accident that in our community we have NO historians..I mean real ones, besides Dr Joseph. We have lots of doctors, and engineers and accountants...but no one dares study History as a profession...why? Because we are psychologically rendered unfit for the study of history from childhood. Imagine how well our children would do if they were taught by their parents that 3 + 3 = 19? Would they be able to compete in math classes..or science...or medicine...or even accounting? Of course not.

Our children are taught fables in place of reality...they are taught, like you, that all those dummy experts are just spouting opinions...why would they show any interest in studying history when there is so little respect, and fear, of the real thing? And, when “opinions” are as good as fact? What about an 18 year old Assyrian who says he doesn't have to read any math books where numbers are INTERPRETED... because his opinion and interpretation, is as good as anyone's.

Embarrassing, no? Yet we don;t realize we're being just as stupid, and proud of it, when we say the dumb things we do about history, and advanced degrees, and books and the need for qualified, verifiable sources....only we don;t see it because we were inoculated against real history, as an academic DISCIPLINE, in our youth, in our bogus assyrian youth.

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