THERE IS NO GOOD - UNTIL YOU DO'T !

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Posted by andreas from dtm2-t8-1.mcbone.net (62.104.210.78) on Monday, December 16, 2002 at 5:47PM :

In Reply to: Re: THERE IS NO GOOD - UNTIL YOU DO'T posted by Lilly from ? (160.129.27.22) on Monday, December 16, 2002 at 5:27PM :

: Define "free will".

: Define "life".

: & while you're at it, define "evolution."

+++ For the purposes of clarifying the points under discussion between us, simply take these term in their literal meanings.
With additional aspects refinements and additional clarifications will be necessary.
But let's not sway away here in endless chains of associations but rather stay focussed.
Also: within the limits the terms as we used them so far, one can already clearly come to striking an intermediate balance with reagrad to your original questions and my answers. So far, at least.

: Honestly, I think the realists version of "evolution" is that man pollutes his surroundings so damn much that he mutates into something else. We're going to end up dying young of asthma, infectious diseases, & cancers until only a few of us, shaped like jelly fish, survive like cockroaches after a nuclear holocaust. Honestly, that's what I'm predicting. No super man there in the future, unless you're thinking about a superman jelly fish mutant person/thing.

### THERE IS NO GOOD - UNTIL YOU DO'T !

: I said there's a relative form of "free will" that I believe in, which would include the ability to choose to be an activist or not. But that's the problem - limited choices... limited by ideas.

### I said there's an evolutionary form of free will" (of acquiring/achieving/expanding) and if you stop for fear, depression, loss of hope or courage or what else, then the whole project is aborted just from the beginning.

-- andreas
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Re: THERE IS NO GOOD - UNTIL YOU DO'T ! - Lilly 5:52PM 12/16/2002 () (4)

It's got very late. - andreas 6:04PM 12/16/2002 () (3)
- Re: It's got very late. - Lilly 6:13PM 12/16/2002 () (2)
  - Gute Nacht. Khoolme khilye. - andreas 6:16PM 12/16/2002 () (1)
    - Re: Gute Nacht. Khoolme khilye. - Lilly 6:51PM 12/16/2002 () (0)

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