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Posted by Sadie from ? (160.129.27.22) on Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 3:56PM :

In Reply to: Re: You are being arrogant &... posted by pancho from pool0075.cvx24-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.179.210.75) on Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 2:20PM :

who try to control anyone who is not "one" of their gang - whether it be women or children - act the same way, take advantage of "other" people in the same way. You COMPLETELY miss the point I'm trying to make - that the Catholic tradition is only another manifestation of a patriarchal order that confuses sex (& other things) with power. Of course, you WOULD miss my point because in some ways, you still embody the spirit of that very patriarchal order. Almost all men in such societies do, whether or not they like it. It's also at the root of this blasted capitalist ideology & the reason why socialism couldn't work in places where feudalism had taken root before... where feudalism & the supposed law of macho might became mistaken as the "nature" of men. It's the reason why even a "secular" state would not be rid of pedophilia. All the Catholic Church did was superimpose another religion on the people who'd already been "tamed" & taught this perspective by other aristocrats.

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Re: all men - pancho 4:58PM 01/16/2003 () (6)

ahem - Sadie 5:09PM 01/16/2003 () (5)
- Re: ahem - pancho 5:59PM 01/16/2003 () (4)
  - you're STARTING to get it! - Sadie 6:47PM 01/16/2003 () (3)
    - This Has To Be Andreas! - pancho 8:38PM 01/16/2003 () (2)
      - Re: This Has To Be Andreas! - Sadie 11:49PM 01/16/2003 () (1)
        
        Re: This Has To Be Andreas! - pancho 0:15AM 01/17/2003 () (0)

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