Strong identity

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Posted by Jeff from bgp01107368bgs.wbrmfd01.mi.comcast.net (68.42.59.180) on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 11:40AM :

In Reply to: I came on here.... posted by panch from pool1101.cvx24-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.179.214.81) on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 1:46AM :

: ...to understand what we think we are and where we think the problems
: for us lie and what we think we can do about it...assuming we care to do
: anything about about anything.

It's kind of funny. Back when YOU created the original board, I believe it was called "Freedom from Assyrian/Chaldean Censorship", David started a thread called "Our people's main problems". Looks like he's decided to do something to solve those problems. Way to go, David... ahem, I mean Tiglath.

: I don't mean hordes of "us". Just a few people who seek to first of all
: define these terms everyone is bandying about...before we can have any
: kind of meaningful dialogue.

: Just what is an "Assyrian" anyway? That alone isn't an easy thing to
: define. You can be a National Idiot Question about it and define
: Assyrian as YOU...if you want to...but the people who do that sort of
: thing have their own asylum...this is ours.

***
I suppose my definition would involve NOT discriminating against anyone or excluding anyone because of their religion, or dialect. ...that's a starting point.

: What is the "proper" religion for Assyrians?

: Where do Chaldeans fit in...and what about all these YoYos and Melamine
: People....

: What difference does language make? Americans speak English, not
: "American"...can Assyrians be Assyrians if they only speak Italian?

: What value is there in being "saved"? Saved for what? Do people have to
: have a purpose in life or is eating well and craping better enough?

: There is a purpose in being American or Spanish or a Flounder (people
: from Flanders)...is there any useful purpose to be served in being
: Assyrian? Are we just window dressing...a tinsel and glitter decoration
: no one wants to display any longer?

: What's the POINT?

***
I may not know what the point is, but I do know that I feel great when I meet people like you, Stella, Tiglath, et. al (the rest of the John Does)... I feel great. That's the point. No, not for my own gratification...this isn't all what makes me feel good (after all, the community often disappoints and frustrates me)... it's much more than that.

I don't know!!!!

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Re: Strong identity - panch 12:32PM 07/16/2002 () (15)

hmmmmm... - Lilly 7:52PM 07/16/2002 () (14)
- Up Yours! - panch 8:06PM 07/16/2002 () (13)
  - on "tough love" - Lilly 8:58PM 07/16/2002 () (10)
    - Try "tough shit" - panch 1:58AM 07/17/2002 () (9)
      - look, silly, - Lilly 9:55AM 07/17/2002 () (8)
        
        Re: look, silly, - panch 10:27AM 07/17/2002 () (1)
        
        Re: look, silly, - Lilly 12:03PM 07/17/2002 () (0)
        
        furthermore - Lilly 10:04AM 07/17/2002 () (5)
        
        Re: furthermore - panch 10:36AM 07/17/2002 () (4)
        
        what? - Lilly 11:37AM 07/17/2002 () (3)
        
        Re: what? - panch 8:08PM 07/17/2002 () (0)
        
        a few more things... - Lilly 12:30PM 07/17/2002 () (1)
        
        Re: a few more things... - panch 8:18PM 07/17/2002 () (0)
  - you choose to read... - Lilly 8:34PM 07/16/2002 () (1)
    - Re: you choose to read... - panch 2:07AM 07/17/2002 () (0)

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Message:	: : : ...to understand what we think we are and where we think the problems : : for us lie and what we think we can do about it...assuming we care to do : : anything about about anything. : It's kind of funny. Back when YOU created the original board, I believe it was called "Freedom from Assyrian/Chaldean Censorship", David started a thread called "Our people's main problems". Looks like he's decided to do something to solve those problems. Way to go, David... ahem, I mean Tiglath. : : : I don't mean hordes of "us". Just a few people who seek to first of all : : define these terms everyone is bandying about...before we can have any : : kind of meaningful dialogue. : : Just what is an "Assyrian" anyway? That alone isn't an easy thing to : : define. You can be a National Idiot Question about it and define : : Assyrian as YOU...if you want to...but the people who do that sort of : : thing have their own asylum...this is ours. : * : I suppose my definition would involve NOT discriminating against anyone or excluding anyone because of their religion, or dialect. ...that's a starting point. : : : What is the "proper" religion for Assyrians? : : Where do Chaldeans fit in...and what about all these YoYos and Melamine : : People.... : : What difference does language make? Americans speak English, not : : "American"...can Assyrians be Assyrians if they only speak Italian? : : What value is there in being "saved"? Saved for what? Do people have to : : have a purpose in life or is eating well and craping better enough? : : There is a purpose in being American or Spanish or a Flounder (people : : from Flanders)...is there any useful purpose to be served in being : : Assyrian? Are we just window dressing...a tinsel and glitter decoration : : no one wants to display any longer? : : What's the POINT? : * : I may not know what the point is, but I do know that I feel great when I meet people like you, Stella, Tiglath, et. al (the rest of the John Does)... I feel great. That's the point. No, not for my own gratification...this isn't all what makes me feel good (after all, the community often disappoints and frustrates me)... it's much more than that. : I don't know!!!!

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